Stairway to Eleven Episode #16: Live! (But not really!)

00:00:00There's a podcast that's sure all that rocks hard is gold. And they're climbing the stairway to 11. When they get to there they know the record stores are all closed. But online they can get what they came for.

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00:01:00why I'm being such a dork. It's because this one time. If you're wondering why I'm being a dork this time. It's because today we are here to talk about live albums. Cheers. Okay. So I've probably stated before that I'm not a huge live album person, but I do like live albums. They're not necessarily the first thing I'm going to grab from a band, but if it's a band I like, I still want to hear it. So.

00:01:30I know you guys are a bit more into the live album thing, so I'm going to let you talk a little bit about that. All right. Yeah, I love live albums, as long as they don't suck. And there's plenty of them out there that suck. But I like the idea of live albums, and live albums are what got me into live shows. Because some of my early ones are ones that really sparked my interest in playing and in going to live shows.

00:02:00about them. I really enjoyed the intros. I mean, if you're a Rush fan, there's one of the greatest intros ever to a concert at the beginning of All the World's a Stage. Kiss has the famous intro on their live album. What is that? I guess Alive, the first one. Yeah. It's got the famous intro. There's all kinds of them, and I always loved that, which they don't announce bands anymore for live albums, which kind of sucks, because there's some great ones out there. George, I know you're not a fan of the Peter Frampton Comes Alive, but there's a great

00:02:30on that one from Bill Graham at the beginning of that. So I just, the whole live atmosphere has always kind of got me. I know some people don't like them. They think that the studio versions are better. I think there's plenty of live albums where the live versions are significantly better than the studio versions of albums. The live album versions are better than the studio albums. Now there's, we'll get into the weeds on some of those. There's, you know, air quotes. Some of them are actually from the studio still.

00:03:00Live from the studio.

00:03:02But their touch-ups, you know, that happened a lot in the 70s and early 80s.

00:03:07You know, when you mentioned about how live albums got you into live shows,

00:03:12that sort of clicked something with me.

00:03:14And I feel like I was into live stuff more before I went to live shows.

00:03:21Because then when I was live, I was like, well, this is so much better than that crappy recording.

00:03:25That could be something there.

00:03:26That could be something that the psychiatrist could work with to figure this out.

00:03:30Got a whole nother bag of issues for Dr. Finkelstein. Exactly. Well, I know there's an album TR will probably talk about tonight that is considered the band's best album and it's a live album. It's on the paper that I have in front of it. I'll just say one thing to give you a hint. Look to the skies. Yes. You know, you also mentioned the intro, like the kiss one and everything. And my favorite of all time, and I don't even, I would have to assume that it's on a live

00:03:59album, Manowar. They open their shows. I don't know if they still do. I guess I'll find out in November with a recording of Orson Welles. And they're playing like O Fortuna, I think, at this point. And then it's like Orson Welles and these ladies and gentlemen from the United States of America, all hail Manowar. And then they kick into probably something off of the first album. What year was this? Do you remember? That they did this?

00:04:29that they released the album.

00:04:31It was early 80s.

00:04:33Not the live album, but I know that they opened.

00:04:36They've pretty much always, as far as I know, since they got that opened with it.

00:04:40I mean, pretty much every time I've seen them, I think they've had it.

00:04:44I mean, if you've got Orson Welles to record a bit, you're going to play it.

00:04:48Who had Vincent Price?

00:04:51I'm already forgetting, and I should know this.

00:04:53Vincent Price never narrated for them.

00:04:55Michael Jackson?

00:04:56No.

00:04:57Or was it Christopher? Christopher Lee? Christopher Lee. I'm drawing a total draw, and I'm going to feel stupid when I realize who it is. I can't remember what it was now. Oh, well. Somebody actually comment on one of our posts and tell us. Yeah. What are we talking about? Yes. So I started off not liking live albums, and I was very much, oh, the studio or nothing. I really felt like the live albums got sloppy or different things.

00:05:28I really didn't take to live albums so much for a while. But then as time passed, I know I had the Rush live albums, the early Rush live albums. Other than that, I really didn't get into live albums at all for a long time. And then I began to appreciate them for a couple of reasons. I started thinking about live albums in general and like what they mean.

00:05:57and what they're for. In some cases, it's almost like the band releasing a best of, right? Because during their live shows, they're going to play their best stuff and the stuff that they like to play and the stuff that maybe the audiences really like them playing live. So that's one kind of thing that I feel like live albums kind of fulfill. And then it serves as a snapshot in time. It's a piece of that band's history. Some bands change pretty significantly, and they're

00:06:27different periods of different bands and to have a live statement or a live album from that period is sometimes a real great piece of history that you can always go back to and sample and be like, oh, wow, that's when that guy was in the band or that's when they were still playing this music. And it's just a nice snapshot. And sometimes, like John said, it's not so live because they do a lot of touch ups and, you know,

00:06:56It's hard to tell where the live ends and the studio begins. Sometimes it's a contractual obligation because the band is coming to the end of their time with a particular record company. Yeah, we don't really feel like putting something out. So we're just going to pull some live show out of the bin and make that our last album with this record company that we don't want to be with anymore. And sometimes that happens too. That was just some of my thoughts about live albums in general. And some of these that we're going to talk, or at least I'm going to talk about,

00:07:27talk about today, you know, fit into some of those categories, not so much the contractual obligation category, but certainly some of the other ones. And yeah, these, the ones I'm going to talk about today are just, you know, personal favorites of mine. And then there are a few of them here that I actually happened to be at the show that was recorded, which is a neat name. So. I know one we were all at. That's exactly right. And our eagle eyed viewers might be able to find us in the

00:07:57I did. So tell us the four or five dudes that were exhausted at that point in the day just sitting there. We're like a where's Waldo of. You see it you can't unsee it. Right. So be glad you can't smell it. Yes oh boy. So that's my kind of pre-thoughts as we enter into this live album extravaganza. Excellent. Interestingly enough I did

00:08:26not include that on my list. I'm glad I didn't because that way we wouldn't be. No, it's a very good choice, especially because of the history. Yeah. Well done. I bet you we've been to a few recorded shows at that venue. I know I've certainly been to a number of them. You've been to almost all of them. No, meaning bands that I wanted to see that recorded there. Yes. And there are a couple of, there's only one more that I listed, but I know that there's another one that I didn't list that we were both.

00:08:56Present Four. You'll have to remind me. I've been to so many of them. I know. I will when the time comes. Yes. Well, I'm going to kick us off because I never do. If you don't mind. Well, all right then. Fine. And these are in no particular order. Of course. So this is a live album that's more than just a live album because this is not an album you couldn't get in the studio. At least not in this way.

00:09:26This is from the biggest metal band in the world, Metallica, and their album, S&M. Get your mind out of the gutter. It stands for Symphony and Metallica. All right. It's a live album that they recorded with the San Francisco Symphony conducted by Michael Kamen, RIP, recorded in April of 1999 at the Berkeley Community Theater. And it's also their final album to feature Jason Neustadt.

00:09:57on bass. So what makes this album so special is that it is Metallica playing with an orchestra, which, you know, when they first started talking about this, I was like, that could be cool. I mean, I've heard people play with orchestras before and it was cool, but nothing that I know of has ever turned out quite as good as this. This is a phenomenal live album, phenomenal album, period.

00:10:26They did an S&M 2 at some point, although I haven't really listened to it like this one. But it's just really cool to hear these songs live mixed in with an orchestra. Do you have any highlights from it? Actually, I probably do. For Whom the Bell Tolls, for sure. I would imagine that would be very good with the symphony. Yeah. Call of Cthulhu. That would be good, too. Yes.

00:10:56I swear there was one maybe there's maybe it was from the next one maybe that's what I'm not seeing because I thought they did Orion that must be on the S&M too because that was really good but it's it's a mix of you know classic stuff plus stuff that Will would never listen to our friend Will you know there's some stuff off of the load and reload you know stuff like until it sleeps and fuel memory remains here are the day bleeding me

00:11:26The Outlaw Torn. There's actually quite a bit of stuff off of Load. And Enter Sandman. But it's got one. Oh, I like Whoever I May Roamah. And A Wolf and Man. Master of Puppets. So, yeah, there's quite a bit of Load on. But I don't care. I love it. And I like Load anyway, so. Screw you, Will. All right. All right, that's my first one. Not bad. I have to honestly admit, I have never listened to it before.

00:11:56You should

00:11:57I never listened to either one of them

00:11:59I didn't even know there was a second

00:12:00S&M 2

00:12:02came out only four years ago

00:12:04actually I remember that

00:12:06because there was like a PBS video

00:12:08like they aired it on PBS when they did it

00:12:11so

00:12:12For Whom the Bell Tolls

00:12:13The Day That Never Comes

00:12:14Death Magnetic

00:12:15great tune

00:12:16Memory Remains

00:12:17another one from Reload

00:12:19Moth Into Flame

00:12:21Halo On Fire

00:12:23okay still no Orion

00:12:24So I don't know where the hell I came up with that. You must have imagined it. I swear they did that. I don't know. Okay, well, I am clearly insane because I swear I've heard them play that song with an orchestra. So am I insane? Tell me people, am I going insane? All right. Well, nice selection.

00:12:54que vai ser um dos?

00:13:24It was a T-section. No, actually, my first live album was Got Live If You Want It by the Rolling Stones. I think I was seven or eight. My aunt, let me borrow that. To this day, that shitty recording, I love that album just because I listened to it so much when I was young. No, my first live album that I got for myself is an album that came out in 1978. Tara might know this guy. I know George owns him too, but Tara might know him because we just saw this guy.

00:13:53Oh, a couple weeks ago. My first one is Sammy Hagar's All Night Long. Oh, yeah. Wow. 1978. And this is one of those albums. So my choices I made were based on either nostalgia, were they like essential to me? You know, are they favorites? And essential meaning like, is it something I had to have because it's already popular or it's considered iconic in a band's discography? And then there's personal favorites. This one's nostalgic and a personal favorite for me.

00:14:23And this is one of my very first albums, one of my first 10 or 12 albums that I had. My early collection, which was basically all half of it was all ACDC and sporadic other albums from other bands. I don't know what it is about this album. I just absolutely love it. There's so much energy. It's actually a really good recording. I don't think it was touched up in the studio. I could be wrong, but I haven't read anything about it being touched up. And that was a problematic thing for a lot of these 70s and early 80s albums.

00:14:53when the tapes got jacked up a little they had to go back and do some touches mainly in the vocal areas i think is when you see it the most some guitar parts but they're taken from live source material like 80 of it or whatever and i know some people don't like that and they say it's not live you know what if you don't like it don't listen to it and quite frankly if that's what it sounds like in the studio then they made great leaps and bounds from the albums that came out like two years prior to that sound like crap in the studio anyway this album

00:15:23He recorded throughout California and Texas in 1970, early on. It was released later in 78. And it just features all his best stuff from the 70s, minus one song, which I don't know why he put it on there. But it includes songs from his first three albums and from Montrose's first album. If you don't know Montrose, the first album, Sammy Hagar was part of Montrose. But it starts off with Red, Rock and Roll.

00:15:53Weekend, Make It Last, Reckless, Turn Up the Music, I've Done Everything for You. Yes, it's not a Rick Springfield song. It's actually a Sammy Hagar song, and it was released years before Rick Springfield covered it. Young Girl Blues, which I guess is that a, I can't remember who sang it. Yeah, he did a couple of Donovan songs. Yeah, and it's off his first album, and it's actually the Waste of Space on the album for me personally. It's not needed. And then it ends with a Wicked version of Bad Motor Scooter, which is a Mantra song. Make It Last is also a Mantra song.

00:16:23It's just a high-energy live album. I mean, that first side, when you go in from Red to Rock and Roll Weekend, and then he just rips in them. Maybe that's the best version of that song I've ever heard anywhere, anytime. And if you don't know that song, it's Gary Peele on guitar. So freaking good. His guitarist. Actually, the whole band was basically from Montrose, and they all went on to do great stuff. Gary Peele, I think, went on to become the guitarist in Boston. Starting, I think, in the... Like, late 80s there?

00:16:53I think he was on stage with them. Yes, he was in the 80s. He joined them once he left Sammy's band. He was in Sammy's band for almost 10 years, I think. So it's a great album. He's got a star-studded band, actually. I mean, Alan Fitzgerald on keyboards was Night Rangers keyboardist for years. Danny Carmasi played drums in Montrose, Gamma, Heart, White Snake, everybody else. And then there's Bill Electric Church, who I don't know what he did. He's the one guy, I'm not sure.

00:17:22But it's just a super album. I mean, and tons of energy. And I just wore the hell out of that album. I got to put it on and listen to it again. Yeah. Gotta love Sammy Hagar. If you're looking for non-cheesy Sammy Hagar songs, he either writes a great hard rock song or a really cheesy ballad. And if you get rid of the ballads, I've done everything for you. When it's low. That's Van Hammer. I know, but he probably wrote that. But maybe you don't believe me. Listen to Reckless.

00:17:52and bad motor scooter off that album and you'd be like whoa this guy actually does rock

00:17:56v-o-a no oh i love that album and that song

00:18:03he was all like america yeah there's no your love is driving me crazy

00:18:12two kinds of love none of that stuff i love that album it was my first

00:18:17that was my first sammy album it was voa it was yes because i heard i can't drive 55

00:18:22I was like, gotta get me some of that. That's his anthemic song. And yeah, you know, we talked about this a little bit last time. It's not necessarily a great album, but I love it because it's my first. It's no standing Hampton. Good. All right. Well, the first pick for me is actually not necessarily really an album that like I bought when I was a kid or was like, you know, this was actually more of a show that

00:18:52that I was so excited to see and actually got tickets and went to. And that is Heaven and Hell, the live from Radio City Music Hall show. Nice. I can't tell you how much I anticipated this show. Like when I found out that they were getting back together again and then that they were actually going to go tour and they were good. I remember hearing those tracks and thinking, yeah, this sounds killer.

00:19:22And then it was announced, yeah, they're going on tour. And the closest that they were playing was Radio City to where I was. So I said, you know, I'm going to this show. There's no way I'm not going to this show. Clearly you missed Meriwether. Well, so here's the thing. 2007 was the year that I did a six month deployment to Iraq. And that took place from the middle of April to the middle of October.

00:19:50That whole summer, I was not here. And I did not get to go to a whole bunch of shows that took place during that time. I was there as your surrogate. Yes. Okay. Well, that's good. This show took place before I was going to deploy. So I was like, okay, I'm going to this. I don't care if it's the day before I get on the plane. I'm going to this show. There was actually a little time after this, but not a lot. I went with my buddy Alex.

00:20:20And this for me was the first time I went to Radio City Music Hall. And it wasn't the Christmas show with the Rockettes. This was my first rock show at Radio City. And it was my first time seeing Heaven and Hell or Black Sabbath with Dio. And I got to tell you, I'm sure you guys have seen some of these live shows like the Maiden, like Rock and Rio, where they pan across the fans and they're losing their minds. Like they're just like, there's, you know, tears.

00:20:50flying out of their eyes because they just can't get over the fact that they're finally getting to see this band. Well, that's pretty close to how I was feeling during that show because I really never thought that I would get to see them. Yeah. Because, you know, after after Dehumanizer, it was like this. Well, both times that they broke up, it was acrimonious and, you know, seemed like, well, they're never getting back together again. And then here they are and it's and they're on tour and they recorded three songs and it's.

00:21:20Oh man, this is good. You know, this is great. So yeah, that show for me was such a high point. Now, obviously this is only really what before three years before Dio passed, clearly he was getting older and his voice wasn't what it was in the eighties. He still had plenty of voice, but in terms of performances, this is probably not the strongest performance by heaven and hell or black Sabbath with Dio that you would ever hear.

00:21:48But to, I think, John's point or George, I can't remember who said the nostalgia factor, that was huge. And to see them play the song Heaven and Hell or Lonely is the Word or Sign of the Southern Cross or Voodoo. I mean, just hearing those songs live and being there and Children of the Sea, which is the first song that they wrote together. And it just was such a cool show. And to know that this is being recorded and I'm here and, you know,

00:22:18it's preserved forever. I can always go back and just, you know, watch that show and relive that moment again. It's a great thing. So, so that, that's my first choice. Nice. That's a good choice. Okay. I agree. That was an amazing set. I was like down in the pit. So I was like right up on the stage. This was at Meriwether and the pit as if you will. Yeah. Right. But what's interesting is that the first time I saw Dio,

00:22:48was on the Master of the Moon tour at Wrecker Theater. Oh, man. And that was a teeny, teeny, weeny little place. And I'm just like standing in front of Dio on top of a three-foot stage and just like going, uh-huh, Dio. Wow. And then a couple years later, heaven and hell at Merriweather in this massive stage with all these people. And, you know, I mean, I saw him, I think I saw him at Merriweather with the Iron Maiden Motorhead tour as well.

00:23:20But this was my first time seeing Tony and Geezer. Yeah. Ever. Because I had not seen Sabbath. I saw them on the 13 tour. So I did see them eventually. But I'd never seen them this close. I saw Dio this close, obviously. And yeah, I lost my mind at that show. And I know, I guarantee you, I was like, just tears. And Children of the Sea.

00:23:48Oh my goosies, you know, that whole show. I was just like, yeah, going crazy. God. Yeah. Yeah. I did not see that tour. I did. I have seen heaven and hell when they toured with a priest. Wasn't it priest? They toured with, I believe. Yeah. That's all. I saw them in Pittsburgh. This was Megadeth. I think. For the one you saw. Yeah. Yeah. So I have seen that version of them, but I also got to see them in 1982 on the mob rules tour.

00:24:18Thank you.

00:24:19Thank you.

00:24:19I appreciate George's vowing to me.

00:24:21That was one of my earliest concerts.

00:24:23And if I could fit in it, I would wear it.

00:24:25But I had a softball jersey, mob rules shirt.

00:24:28Oh, nice.

00:24:30Black sleeves on a white shirt.

00:24:32It was awesome.

00:24:33And it was the mob rules.

00:24:35Nothing says early 80s ball shirt like that.

00:24:37Oh, it had to cover on the front.

00:24:39And the back was just the wall where it says mob rules.

00:24:42And it was dripping blood.

00:24:43I was like, this is so cool.

00:24:44My mom's like, what is that?

00:24:45And I was like, it's Black Sabbath, Mom.

00:24:48So I have the Metalheads podcast bar down here in the studio. A literal bar. And it's, of course, decorated with memorabilia. And the piece de resistance is a signed vinyl copy of Mob Rules signed by the entire band with pictures and everything of them signing it. Wow. How'd you pull that off? Money.

00:25:18That's what they were doing. Yeah, I mean, I think I got it shortly after he died, which would have made it super expensive, but it had to be like really shortly after like, oh my God, he died. What can I get? You know? So I have to tell my signature story with them. I know you remember this place, Finneage Vinyl in New Jersey. They had a signing when I guess it was the live DVD of this show came out. And also that Rules of Hell box, I think, came out.

00:25:48And basically, all you had to do was buy one or the other and you would get in. But you had to do it quick because there was only so many slots that they had or whatever. And so that was another one my buddy Alex and I got into and did that. I'm sure it was like online or something, but it was like 2000, I want to say it was like 2008 or nine, somewhere in there. And so we drove up there and got in line and, you know, they eventually came in.

00:26:17And yeah, you just went through the line and they signed your stuff and you know, you couldn't really take pictures with them because it was like they wanted to keep it moving. So, you know, you just had to go through it. But yeah, that was a really exciting and cool experience. And then, you know, you could hang around in the record store and John, you remember the size of that store. It was worth the drive going up. Is this the one or is this John, is this the one that I've been to that gave you the directions to it? Yeah, it's near the New Jersey Transit.

00:26:48Yeah, it's gone now. Is it really? Yeah, they closed a few years ago. That was a heartbreaker because they just had an incredible selection, a great store. I always was happy when we went to a show on a Friday, as much as that sucked going into New York City, because then Saturday, there was no rush to get home. Right. And we get there early and just spend like a couple hours to eat. Oh, shit. I think I dropped like 250. Yeah, it's easy to do.

00:27:17They had such great stuff in there and rare stuff and stuff hanging on the wall that was like, oh my gosh, I've never even seen that before. I went there with Barb and I remember just being, what the fuck do I have this? They had a fairly good sized vinyl section, but it wasn't just metal. It was the largest metal section I've ever seen in any store. It must have been 10 rows that went straight back. Their rock section was even bigger.

00:27:47But if you wanted to get something rare on CD, you had a pretty good chance of finding some decent stuff that you couldn't get normally in your local store. I know you guys, I know TRs experienced this. George, I'm not sure what happened when you went up there. You'd walk up with this huge stack of stuff and they'd say, is that it? It was funny because for today, you're going to come back three months later for another show. It's all I could carry.

00:28:17Yeah.

00:28:18You have cards?

00:28:19Really?

00:28:20That's a good one.

00:28:21I've been to Radio City Hall three times for shows.

00:28:25If you get a chance to go and you live in the United States or you want to venture to the country to see a show at Radio City, we do have a world-class theater.

00:28:36I know a lot of the rest of the world doesn't think we do.

00:28:38We do.

00:28:39It's amazing to see shows there.

00:28:41I have walked by it several times.

00:28:44Doesn't look like much on the outside.

00:28:45Hey, look at that.

00:28:46Another New York building.

00:28:47Then you get in your life. Yes. And you're sitting right up close. That's a story for something new. That's a story for another time. Yeah. All right. Back to me then. You know, I really ought to pick some albums that you guys like too. But you can pick whatever you want, man. Yeah. I'm pretty much going with stuff that you don't like. Good. Bring it. And this pick. It's alive.

00:29:17by the Ramones.

00:29:19Oh, it's terrible.

00:29:20I don't like it at all.

00:29:22I don't know, but I know you don't like punk.

00:29:25Jen would love it.

00:29:26She's a huge Ramones fan.

00:29:27Is she?

00:29:28Yeah, she loves Ramones.

00:29:29I'm going to hang out with Jen.

00:29:30Screw you guys.

00:29:31I'm not anti-Ramones.

00:29:33I want to set the record.

00:29:33No, I don't have any issues with Ramones.

00:29:35I like them.

00:29:35Sure you don't.

00:29:36Sure you're not.

00:29:37Especially Joey.

00:29:38And he's really George, too.

00:29:40And George, too.

00:29:41All right, fine.

00:29:41Well, I thought you had said something like negative about, maybe it was just punk music in general.

00:29:45Yeah, well, I might have said, yeah, I'm not a big punk fan, but I respect the Ramones. I mean, like, as one should, they didn't play punk. They were just playing rock and roll as they saw it. Yeah. Well, yeah, they were just playing the Beach Boys really fast. Pretty. So, yes, this was recorded on New Year's Eve 1977 in London, released a couple years later. Songs from their first three albums, The Ramones, Leave Home, and Rocket to Russia, which Rocket to Russia is my fave.

00:30:15You can't go wrong with the first three albums. If you've ever seen the Ramones, and if you are, I don't know, less than 30 years old, then you probably haven't, because they're mostly all dead now. But if you've seen them or know of their live shows, they tended to be a bit quicker than the albums. Just a tad bit. Yeah, I saw them do a 45-minute headline set. They've been like 20 songs? At least.

00:30:45Probably more than that. At least. They tend to play a bit quicker. Now, I was listening to a little bit of this beforehand to confirm or deny that, and it's a little faster. I think they probably decided to slow it down a little for the recording, but it does seem a little quick. But man, when I saw them, they plowed. I mean, I've seen them twice. And both times, they just plow through the songs like they got somewhere to be. But yeah, this is first three albums, like I said, classic stuff.

00:31:15Rockaway Beach, Teenage Lobotomy, Blitzkrieg Bop, everybody knows that song. Glad to see you go from the second album. Nice one. Gimme Gimme Shock Treatment. Sheena is a punk rocker. Most people know that one as well. But yeah, I mean, Ramones are my all-time favorite band of all time, in case you didn't catch that the first time I said it. The Ramones. My all-time favorite band of all time. They're my all-time favorite band of all time.

00:31:45What am I going to do but love all over this album? There you go. Nice. Well, George, I will have you know that in more than one band that I was in, we played Blitzkrieg Bop. My mom just requested that I record a cover of that. I recorded a 12-song cover album of Ramon's songs that no one but my mom will ever hear. If you want to hear it, I'll let you hear it, but most of my friends don't want to hear it. I did not do Blitzkrieg Bop because that just felt like

00:32:15like sacrilege and I just didn't think I could do it justice but she has requested it I do what my mother wants so it shall be yeah we also did I want to be sedated there you go 20 20 24 hours ago yep very nice back to John all right so I'm gonna go with this one next because I have a list of 12 that I definitely can talk about and this one I'm gonna go with it falls in the category

00:32:45of being essential, I think.

00:32:48I think it's grown into cult status, to be honest with you,

00:32:52and iconic status to some degree.

00:32:54But my second one that I'm going to bring up is Alice in Chains' MTV Unplugged.

00:33:01I think this is, I don't know how this got panned early on,

00:33:05and how they, some of the reviews.

00:33:07Yeah, I said it was lukewarm.

00:33:08I thought it was amazing.

00:33:10I thought so, too.

00:33:11It has grown in stature, and I think part of what helps that

00:33:15is the lore behind it being one of

00:33:17Elaine Staley's last appearances with the band.

00:33:20You know.

00:33:21Well, and just how much you can tell the band

00:33:23loved doing the performance.

00:33:25And just like you could tell

00:33:27they really enjoyed it.

00:33:28And the audience was going crazy

00:33:30and uncharacteristic for them.

00:33:32It was cheesy at the time to be like

00:33:34MTV Unplugged and blah, blah.

00:33:36Yeah.

00:33:36But some of the decades later now,

00:33:39there are some really good albums

00:33:40that came out of that.

00:33:41And there will be one or two more.

00:33:43Oh, okay.

00:33:44Okay, well, I won't say anything because we'll mention them then at the end because there are, I can think of three, including this one. But TR, I have to say, I don't know. That band has always had acoustic built into them, especially on EPs. Well, right. What is it? The Jar of Flies. Yes. But I agree with you in terms of the live setting. Yes, you are 100% right that this was something new for them because I would pay top dollar to see them play acoustic. It's also, I think, the only time they ever played as a five-piece because they had brought in Scott Olson as a second

00:34:14to help them.

00:34:16If you haven't seen this, it's worth going back and seeing.

00:34:19And like George said, yeah, it was at the time we were like, oh, another MTV on plugs.

00:34:24And now years later, you're like, oh, man, that was so good back then.

00:34:29I mean, I have the live audio.

00:34:31I've got the DVD to this.

00:34:33It's got the infamous, you know, friends don't let friends cut their hair on Mike Inez's guitar, his bass or whatever.

00:34:40He has that written on there.

00:34:42And that was, I guess, in reference to Metallica cutting their hair. I cut my hair the same time Metallica did. Not because they did. Completely different reason. But it was symbiotic. You know what I'm saying? They did. It just happened. Yeah. So this came out in 96. And like I said, it was one of Lane Staley's last appearances with the band. And here I said, in a live setting, this was unique for them, even though they had albums and they had a lot of acoustics, you know, around.

00:35:11They played those songs that you heard on Sap and Jar of Flies, and they sounded amazing there. So songs like No Excuses, Got Me Wrong, sounded amazing. Over Now, off of Alice in Chains, sounded incredible compared to the studio version, which it was like night and day. And I love the studio version, too. I think that's great. Rooster, obviously. It's cliche to mention Rooster with this band, but it sounded incredible.

00:35:40And you got to actually appreciate Jerry Cantrell's vocals more. Because most people probably don't realize he sings on probably half the songs with Lane Staley in the band. Probably more than half. Well, I mean, meaning like lead parts on songs. Oh, yeah. Well, like the Alice in Chains album was very much more Jerry. Yes. You know, like Heaven Beside You. Of course. I meant when he's doing the lead where it's just him singing.

00:36:09and you don't realize it because their voices, while they don't sound the same, they harmonize the same. Because Lane's got a high-pitched whiny sound to his voice. He's like, yeah, kind of thing like that, which to this day, my good friend Rich and I still would be together. Yeah, want a beer? Yeah. It's not James Hetfield. It's more Lane Staley when we do it. It's not his, yeah, it's more of a, yeah. His is more succinct to the point. Do you want a beer? Yeah. That means two beers. Anyway, I think it's a fabulous album. I think it's worth going back and,

00:36:39and catching the band in this different setting. It's somber. It's even depressing now when you know the history of what was coming. And if you want to just relax, I don't want to use the word chill, but if you just want to kick back. Throw on some mad season while you're at it. Yeah. Yeah. I remember it was one of those remember where you are moments when Lane Staley died. I can just picture myself looking into a room and out the window and being like, what? So I never got to see them. I did. That version. I've seen them.

00:37:09You didn't see him on the Van Halen tour? No. Never got to. No, I didn't. No, I've only. The last time I saw Van Halen was on 5150. Yeah. No. Take it back. Oh, you ate one, two on Monsters of Rock at Dick Ford. Oh, man. That's when I got to see it. I told you guys this story. They opened to a Kingdom Come. They're like Zeppelin clones. And then Metallica came out. And I'm like, oh, my God. I didn't really know them that well. I mean, I just, that wasn't where I was at that point. I just wasn't there.

00:37:39I so wanted to go see Metallica there. I was such a prog nerd during that period. And I watched them and I was just like, what is happening on the field? It wasn't because this was Candlestick Park now. You know, it wasn't one pit. There were three pits going at one time. The whole field was just insane. And now when I look back and I'm like, talking went on after them.

00:38:09Yeah, because that was a brutal set, dude. And that was just before Injustice came out. Well, at least when I saw them. I don't know, you know, when the album dropped and all that, but I just remember they were like, this is a new one. Brutal. Yeah. They were so good. And Doggy was good, too. Don't get me wrong. Oh, yeah. Door bands were cool. I loved it. And then, you know, Van Halen played, obviously. That's the last time I saw him because San Francisco became like an adopted city for the band at the time because of Sammy Hagar, along with L.A.

00:38:39So yeah, that's my last time I saw them. So I never saw Allison get back to Allison Chains. I never saw them as a band until William joined the band. I saw them with on dirt on Lollapalooza. And it was definitely like top 10 sets ever. I like to tell the story of how it was Lollapalooza. It was outside in Michigan. It stormed and lightning and stuff. And so the set was paused after a couple of songs.

00:39:08And then they came back out and played rain when I die. Perfect. It's the first song I ever saw them open with. So was Mike Starr still in the band at that point? As far as I know. I remember when he passed. Oh, he was definitely alive still. Yeah. I mean, this was like 93. When he left the band. 94? I don't know. Okay. But I have to talk about Metallica too, because you were talking about Monsters of Rock, which I did not get to.

00:39:38go to and I was very upset about that because I wanted to see Metallica. But I did see Metallica on the Injustice tour when they headlined with Queensryche on the Operation Mindcar. Yes, I saw that as well. Mostly because I wanted to see Queensryche. Boy, I sure hope they got treated better than they did in Detroit. They didn't. Because people were just chucking stuff at Queensryche the whole set. But they sounded great. But the point is that the Metallica, I was in,

00:40:08the pit. I was on the floor, which is a pit. And this was the first time I ever experienced abject terror on the floor. Because I'd never been to a show where it was a sea of people jammed together like sardines and just like moving up and down like waves. I was with a friend for five seconds. He got ripped away from me and I didn't see him again until the end of the set. So, and ironically, I,

00:40:38Back in the day, I had a jean jacket, not a vest, but a whole jacket, had a Metallica Damage ink back patch on there, and various other King Diamond Overkill Exodus patches and stuff, and this dude at work stole it. I didn't know it was him until I saw him at this show wearing my freaking jacket. No way. But it was in that pit, and there was no way I was getting anywhere near him. But I was like, that's my jacket! Hey, George, it looks like it, Mike,

00:41:08was the bassist you saw on that tour. Oh, okay. Yeah, Mike Starr actually left right after the album was released. That's what I was going to say. If you got to see the original band, that would have been awesome. I'm just saying because, unfortunately, two members of the band have passed. Yes, of course. And don't get me wrong, I think Mike Starr is awesome. I love him in the band. That would have been cool to see the original formation. Yeah. All right. Cool, TR. All right, my next live album,

00:41:38And this one is just one that I just really liked when I was growing up and one that I just have loved for a long time and played the crap out of, much like you, John, on that Hagar album. And this one is Journey Captured. That's a great album. I forgot about that. So this is Journey during the Departure tour in 1980. It's their last album with Greg Rowley, the keyboard player,

00:42:08that started out with them. And mostly it's really, the album is just all the, you know, Steve Perry's time in the band. Cause you know, he obviously came in to journey after they had already released three albums. And so it's, you know, basically all the stuff that, that they did with Steve Perry to that point. So, and they were still playing a lot of songs where, you know,

00:42:38would trade off on the vocals, you know, feeling that way anytime. Just a bunch of songs where they were still this. When they first started, they were proggy and a little jam bandy in the very beginning. And there were still traces of that through the period of when they did Lights and the period of just those three or so albums when Steve Perry came into the band and they started to achieve some popularity and songs like Lights, songs like Love and

00:43:08and squeeze in any way you want it. Like the kind of the first wave of Perry hits are on this live album. And I just remember playing the crap out of this because I just really love Journey. And I had pretty much everything, all their albums up to that point. So I just, this is, you know, one of my favorites because I just listened to it over and over again. And also on this album, there's actually a studio track that they released called The Party's Over, Hopelessly in Love.

00:43:38That was, I guess, like an extra bonus track. So that was cool as well. And there's a song on this album called The Dixie Highway, which the only place that appears is this album because they never recorded that on a studio album. So that was neat to have a song that you never heard before that they just did live. So it's been since renamed to just The Highway. Yeah. So that album after Infinity was Evolution. And they really should have waited two more albums to do it.

00:44:08a live album just saying because there's so many more good songs on the next two you might think that but i like that journey

00:44:15that's my journey this is the greg raleigh version of journey that's i'm glad they didn't to be honest with

00:44:22you george because it would have been half the album would have been escape yeah exactly while there's some

00:44:28good songs on escape like stone in love would have been great to hear live no my raleigh is raleigh

00:44:34No. Greg Rawley. Because this album, I agree to you. This album's awesome. I mean, it opens up with Where Were You? But that intro, the drum fill from Steve Smith after the majestic, you know, the pre-recording thing finishes. I mean, Line of Fire is freaking awesome. And like you said, people don't know, Dixie Highway is their ode back to their early days, but with a little bit of touch of the new stuff. But it's so heavy for them.

00:45:02And yeah,

00:45:03hands down the best moment of the whole album.

00:45:05I don't care what anyone says is feeling that way in any time with the harmonized

00:45:09vocal.

00:45:10Oh yeah.

00:45:10Especially when they open the opening lyric to any time after they just do feeling

00:45:15that way.

00:45:16And oh man,

00:45:17the guitar solos on from Dale showing,

00:45:19I don't care how much of that band is effed up right now.

00:45:23It's just so bad,

00:45:24but you know what?

00:45:25Yeah.

00:45:25They could always play,

00:45:27you know,

00:45:27and they were always really good live and yet they really bring it.

00:45:30Yep.

00:45:31We haven't even mentioned their biggest song up to that point for them. Wheel in the Sky was probably at that point the biggest song. It got a lot of radio play. Yeah. And you're right, John, because if, you know, once they did Escape and Frontiers, it's over for this part of the band. They're not going to play this stuff that much. And I mean, while they still do play this stuff live, some of it, ultimately it's not going to be the same because once Greg Rowley left, you just don't have that, that vibe.

00:46:01You don't have that Hammond B3 kind of sound.

00:46:05No.

00:46:05And they don't harmonize the same way anymore.

00:46:07Well, exactly.

00:46:08And so that's why, you know, when I was talking about like a snapshot in time,

00:46:14I'm so glad that this snapshot exists because it probably would have gotten washed away

00:46:19with Escape and all the other stuff that came after because that was so much more popular.

00:46:24And, you know, if they hadn't recorded this and put it out, but they had it in the can and,

00:46:30they would never release it because they would know that it wouldn't make as much money as

00:46:34something after that. So I'm so glad it came out and we all got to enjoy that before it just got

00:46:41eclipsed by some of the other stuff. So anyway. With that said George I would agree Stone and Love Live would have been awesome if they included that but it would have been what three years? Two years? Yeah. Roughly. 81 that came out? Yes. So this tour was in 79.

00:46:59The tour was 80. It was actually in 80? Yeah. Wow. And they used to crank these things out fast. Yeah. These albums. Right. I know. You know, it's funny. On Metalhead's podcast recently, I was complaining about and to be put in my place by one of the comments online about Werewolves putting out an album every year for the last five years. Did you see that? Yeah. Yeah. That's really funny. But I, you know, I read that comment and I was like, yeah, you know,

00:47:29You think about it like back in the day like the Beatles were cranking out two albums a year and so was everybody else in the 60s and early 70s cranking out an album or two a year because that's what was expected and I'm like okay they were shorter albums they were probably 30 minutes or less but can you imagine if the bands we listen to now were like putting out two albums a year we wouldn't know I'm sorry to say it but we wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind you know we'd be like ah what are we doing

00:47:59How can we keep up? I will say there's one slight difference. And this is not to retort to the werewolves comment on Facebook. But take Rush, for instance, who put out a ton of albums between 74 and 93. I mean, a ton of albums. They went through how many different sound changes because the technology changed so much. So when a band today puts out like five or six albums in six or seven years, there's not that much technology changed.

00:48:29sound-wise, at least. And if you think I'm wrong, just go back and listen to Rush's first album, and then go listen to Grace Under Pressure. Yeah. That was... Yeah. The thing with the Werewolves albums is they sound exactly the same, which is... Well, that's the point I'm getting to, yeah. It's not a bad thing, because it's a good sound, but it's just more and... It's an overkill problem. It's more and more of the same thing, and it's... Okay, whatever. Yeah. And so, for some of these bands, you know, you get them in different phases, different experimentation.

00:48:58You get different sounds. Yeah. Some good. Some not so good in the 80s. And some exactly the same. Yeah. Well, this is a great pick, TR. I'm glad you mentioned it. And just real quick, they recorded in August, two dates in Detroit, two dates in Montreal, and a date in Tokyo. And that album was released in January. October. Yeah. I don't know where in Detroit. They played at a Kobe arena.

00:49:28It was either Kobo or Joe Lewis, probably Kobo. But think about that. So August was the first time they recorded it. And the last time they recorded it was October 13th. They had basically two months to go through those tapes. Not even two months because they had to get back from the tour, had to settle in, and they were right in the studio. And they ripped that thing out that fast. Yeah. So that's how fast these live albums came out back then. Next year. No time for love, Steve Perry. And that's, he was,

00:49:58Well, maybe not his peak yet, but it was pretty effortless for him back then. Yes. Just opened his mouth and it was like booming. Yeah. All right. Well, this one. Now, I'm not going to kid myself. You don't like this one either, but at least it's more in your wheelhouse. And that is Motorhead's No Sleep Till Hammersmith. I like Motorhead. What? When do you like Motorhead? I've seen him like three or four times. Well, then. All right, then. Welcome to the podcast.

00:50:29Excuse me.

00:50:31So much like the Ramones album, this is a live album based on the first three Motorhead albums.

00:50:38And it was released in 1981.

00:50:42And it's in terms of like metal live albums.

00:50:44This is one of the gold standards.

00:50:45I think that everybody like references is like no sleep till Hammersmith.

00:50:51It became a thing like the Beastie Boys.

00:50:54paid homage to this in the 80s when they did the much more popular than No Sleep Till Hammersmith, No Sleep Till Brooklyn. But that was a nod to Motorhead. In terms of live albums, and Hammersmith is not a big place, is it? I've never been. It's in England. Have you been to Hammersmith? Is it still around? I don't think it is. The Hammersmith Odeon? All right, talk amongst yourself. I feel like you must have seen Opeth there.

00:51:24at least 15 or 16 times. Well, I feel like I've been in the area. I haven't. I don't recall. No, I was at the Astoria. Sorry, my bad. London Astoria for a show. But I was not at Hammersmith. All right. Which I don't remember. I don't know much about it other than there's also a great live show for Rush from Hammersmith. Yes. Well, anyway, this, you know, being early on in their career, it does have some of,

00:51:54They're standards. The all-time, like everybody knows it, and probably only knows this one, Ace of Spades opens the album. No Class is on there. Also covered by Metallica. Overkill, band named after it. I don't know if they actually named it after that, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. Bomber, and the, of course, self-titled Motorhead song. Forgot about that one, but it's a good song. And yeah, it's just,

00:52:24This is a classic metal live album. Hard rock metal, I mean. Now, did they actually open that tour with Ace of Spades, do you know? Because a lot of these albums are pieced together, so they'll mix up the set list. You're not getting a set list in order on most of these albums. Since I wasn't there, I can't tell you. I wasn't sure if you went on set list FM to see if anyone... Because if they had opened that tour with Ace of Spades, that's the greatest FU ever for a band.

00:52:54Because it's their biggest song played first

00:52:57Yes, now of course at the time

00:52:59nobody would have realized that

00:53:00it would end up being that

00:53:02But it really is great just to open up with your

00:53:05It's like Rush when they went to Rio

00:53:07for the first time and they opened with Tom Sawyer

00:53:09And you're like, what?

00:53:11You realize how badass it is to do that

00:53:13Yeah

00:53:15Very cool

00:53:16Alright, that's about all I got to say about that

00:53:18Yeah, I like Mara Had George

00:53:20despite what you say

00:53:20I do like him

00:53:21I say you don't like him

00:53:24Fine

00:53:24I hate them. Wait, what do you have? What do you have? In physical format? Yes. Behind them. I actually think I only have two right now in physical format because I never got the... That's two more than I thought you had....overkill. I wanted to get the special edition of that, and I didn't get that. And now I think I have to pay out the backside for it. But, I mean, you know, Jay and I are always talking about Iron Fist. I love Iron Fist. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then obviously I have, you know, that little ditty from 1980 that they released.

00:53:54Of course. But I never got that Overkill special thing that came out. I was pissed I didn't get that. So. But I prefer the earlier stuff. I never got into them as much later on. Man, I like all of it. I just never sought out to buy it. That's all. Sure. My turn? Go ahead. All right. So I'm going next. All right. So the next one I'm going to bring up, and I'll probably be the only one talking about this, which is fine. But this is an

00:54:24album that I waited.

00:54:27Let me do the math.

00:54:29Just came out in 2010, I think, was finally released.

00:54:36And then Stand Alone in 2017.

00:54:38I think I waited.

00:54:40I think I know that this is 25 years for this to be released because I had a bootleg of it, a really crappy bootleg of it.

00:54:48I like live shows so much, I actually collected bootlegs for years and traded a lot of them.

00:54:53For just a few bands, not many. But this was one that I always wanted. And when I saw the set list of this show, this was in high school, I thought, oh my goodness, I need to get this. There was titles for it like Resurrection on 84th Street was one of the titles for the bootlegs. The other title was The Thin White Duke. And I finally got it when it was released on some anniversary date. And that is David Bowie, Live at Nassau Coliseum.

00:55:2476.

00:55:25This is the most sought after Bowie live album that never was released because it's probably his best band in terms of what they played, how they played it, and how they went about the stage setup. There's no frills. They just went out and played. He had this great band that got together and played a lot of his big hits, but it wasn't a super long show. I think it's only like 90 minutes long. Only played like 15 songs.

00:55:53which are like 15 songs but back in those days you know songs like four minutes long that's not much of a set you know in terms of time of course there was a you know 10 minute drum solo there in the show but um i like looked high over hell for it to get any kind of bootleg from this there were so many different versions of it there was a i don't know where i have the book i don't know i hope i didn't lose it i got it because i exchanged books with another friend of mine he had this book and i had a different book and we exchanged them so we could read them

00:56:23We never exchanged them back and I think I got the better of the deal because it was a bootleg book of all his rarities. This huge book somebody put together of all Bowie bootleg stuff. This was like in the early 80s. Yeah, like the fact that it was pre-internet like by, you know, 20 years is like pretty extraordinary that somebody actually did all that. It was amazing and I used to just comb this. Oh my God, this show, I got to get this and it was all the different versions of all these different shows and so this one was big for me. I mean, just to give you an

00:56:53I mean this was on the Station to Station tour so they played four songs from Station to Station of

00:57:00Station of course they didn't play the song to everybody knows from Station to Station which is really funny I think but they played Station to Station the song Stay is amazing Word on a Wing and TBC15 may have maybe heard TBC15 but it's got Suffrage in City fame Queen Bitch which is a great kind of early glam post-punkish song which most people don't know but if you heard it back whoa I can get into this

00:57:23because it's different. Life on Mars, five years, changes, Diamond Dogs, Roble G, just 15 songs in and out, boom, we're done. And it's some of the best recorded stuff that they've done live. And so at some point, the pre-stuff before that was all the big Ziggy Stardust shows, you know, or the Diamond Dogs tour and that live album, which some people either love or hate. I love it. People hate it, whatever. Then the stage stuff that came after that, which was from the Isolar tour,

00:57:53One and Two that came out was all the Berlin stuff. That was all the synthy stuff. That's when he started really experimenting. That sound was completely different. This was right in the middle of all that. His band was awesome. It's just killer stuff. I love it. Most hardcore Bowie fans would admit this is one of the better albums that we finally got. Because they started the Jimi Hendrix estate. There's a lot of archived Bowie stuff that's come out. And he was releasing a lot too when he was live. There's so many good

00:58:23shows that he's released. I mean,

00:58:26of the 10 or 12 live shows I have is that are like official,

00:58:30not boots.

00:58:31I'm not even counting all the boots I have.

00:58:33Yeah.

00:58:34All right.

00:58:35Well,

00:58:36I guess I might as well play the card.

00:58:38Everybody's been waiting for.

00:58:39Okay.

00:58:41That I think John alluded to at the beginning of the show.

00:58:44We know what it is.

00:58:45Yeah.

00:58:46It's UFO.

00:58:48It's strangers in the night.

00:58:51And this is,

00:58:53a great set of songs. It's, again, it's almost like a best of, and it's an outstanding performance, and it's got all the songs you'd want to hear from that period of time in UFO, you know, with Shanker, with Phil Mogg, and just the band, because the early UFO stuff is a little weird, and, you know, Shanker wasn't part of that, but, like, once Shanker joined the band, like, this is, you know, what most people

00:59:22people think of as UFO, right? So great tunes on here. And to me, like the, the one that's for me, that's worth the price of admission is rock bottom. Cause they, they just really extend that track and Shanker just goes off and they've traditionally done that, right? You know, anytime you see rock bottom played, it's this extended kind of jam session where Shanker's doing his thing.

00:59:52And it's just cool and grooved out and just a really awesome version of that song. Rock bottom. Talk about mud flaps. My girl's got them. Some people you can't reach. So, you know, it's got Only You Can Rock Me, Doctor, Doctor, Please, Lights Out, Rock Bottom, Too Hot to Handle, Let It Roll, Shoot, Shoot, bunch of great tracks that UFO is known for and they play them extremely well.

01:00:22on this live set from the 70s. So yeah, that's you guys were expecting it and I'm delivering it. Would you consider that their best album? I boy, that's tough. I almost would. Yeah, they do consider it their best. Like it's got all their best tracks, you know, like it's like it cherry picks all the good stuff and you know, they're playing it live and it sounds great. And so it really is. It's it's hard to go wrong with this, right?

01:00:52Now, did you get the extended version of that, which has all the different shows from that tour? No, because there was like, I can't remember how much they wanted, but it was like, $1 million. I don't think I'm going to go for that. But I can't go for that. Because I feel like this is a pretty darn good set. Yeah, it's cool to hear these other performances, but honestly, it's like, how much am I going to listen to all that? And there's something to be said for the familiarity of a recording that you've listened to again and again, right? There's like this comfort of

01:01:22knowing what's coming and what's there and how it goes. So short answer, no, John, I did not get the mega version with all the shows. Is there an extended version of this particular show, though? There was a reissue. With all the songs from the show, right? Yes, but it also had, yeah, there was, well, okay, the reissue actually did have, yeah, the 99 reissue had a couple of extra songs. Hot and Ready was also on that set with Cherry

01:01:52which was not on the original set but the rest of it I think was tracks that were on the original Strangers. So I thought today at least got the whole show released at some point. Cool. I know it's going to come up but that's most rock creators consider that one of the 10 greatest live albums for rock and roll. Yeah. Hard rock I should say. And for good reason. Are you going to check out the Moggs Motel next month? I was unaware.

01:02:22of it.

01:02:23Phil Mog has a new band.

01:02:26It may be not a new band,

01:02:27but a new album with this band anyway,

01:02:29called Mog's motel.

01:02:32I listened to 10 seconds of it and I was like,

01:02:34yep,

01:02:34that's Phil Mog.

01:02:35So yeah,

01:02:37it's out September 6th.

01:02:39All right.

01:02:39I have to look worldwide.

01:02:42All right.

01:02:42Back to me then.

01:02:45Sorry guys.

01:02:45So this next one is Nirvana's MTV unplugged in New York.

01:02:51Not a Nirvana fan, but it's a really good album. It is a really good album. And it only occurred to me moments ago that the one and only time that I saw Nirvana was roughly two weeks before this was recorded. Oh, wow. And or six months before Kurt died. I saw Nirvana. Okay. I saw Nirvana.

01:03:21October 29th, 1993, at the Michigan State Fairgrounds in Detroit, Michigan. The MTV Unplugged was recorded November 18th, 1993 in New York. Obviously, it's called MTV Unplugged in New York. So a little over two weeks later. And I think it's funny because I'm looking at set list. That's where I figured out when this was, set list FM.

01:03:51And it was, you know, in terms of like shows of people that are mythical and dead, this was definitely up there because at the end of the set, Kurt Cobain threw down his guitar and, you know, feedback ensued and stalked off stage. And everybody was just, I guess we're done now. And they just slowly came to a stop and then left. And on set list on the last track, it says,

01:04:21Parentheses. After the song, Kurt threw down his guitar and stormed off stage, ending the show. I'm like, I'm not crazy. That actually happened. But anyway, holy crap, MTV Implugged in New York, Nirvana, one of the most amazing live albums ever. You know, six months later, he was dead. And I saw this on MTV when it came out prior to the album being released. And it was, I mean, obviously a huge,

01:04:51Nirvana fan when this happened. And it just blew me away. And there's songs on here that they don't normally play. They do some covers. They do Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam, Vaseline's cover, The Man Who Sold the World, David Bowie, just spoken about another great version. Not to knock Dave's version, but this is a good version too. No, it is. It got Bowie to start playing it up. But Nirvana's version is very good.

01:05:19They did three Meat Puppets covers, which the Meat Puppets guys were on hand to help play those songs. They did Plateau, Omi, and Lake of Fire. Lake of Fire is awesome. But then they ended the set with Lead Belly's Where Did You Sleep Last Night, which is one of the most amazing versions of any song ever. You know, the raw emotion that Kurt put into this song was just amazing.

01:05:48There's no way they could have followed this. I think they intended to play more and they were like, how could you do any more after this? Because, oh my God. And that was with Pat Smear, right? On the other guitar? Yes, he was on this, yes. From the Germs. I remember they were all like wearing little sweaters like Mr. Rogers. Yeah, he had his cardigan thing going on or whatever it is. I've never had a cardigan. Is this that Nirvana band?

01:06:21I mean,

01:06:23you didn't have to watch it live on MTV.

01:06:25Cause it was going to play like easily 87 more times over the next couple of months.

01:06:29However,

01:06:30it was still really cool to catch something when it first aired.

01:06:35And I can't say for sure,

01:06:37but I probably watched it when it first aired,

01:06:39but they had a good one.

01:06:40Is anyone else going to mention any other MTV unplugs?

01:06:44So my other unplugged one is technically not an MTV unplugged one.

01:06:48So I will not mention that now. But it is unplugged. The unplugged. Okay. Didn't Eric Clapton have an unplugged on MTV? Okay. That was the one I was referring to. I didn't, I don't know that it was referred to as MTV unplugged. So I didn't know if it was, but yes, that was the other one I was going to mention. Does anyone else have anything else to say about the Nirvana unplugged? But Eric Clapton had an unplugged album and it made him a lot of money because it had tears of heaven on there. Tears in heaven. Tears.

01:07:18In Heaven. Are you going to bring that one up too? I'm bringing it up now. Okay, go ahead. You want to do it now? It's a twofer. I'm just bringing it up. That was, you know, I mean, Eric Clapton, according to the graffiti around London, is God. But by the 90s, he was a little less well-known than God. But he put out this Unplugged album that just blew everybody away. Yeah. Yeah. And brought him back into the

01:07:48of the world.

01:07:50Yeah.

01:07:51Yeah.

01:07:51That was huge because it really did.

01:07:53It was like,

01:07:54Oh yeah,

01:07:54Eric Clapton.

01:07:56And it's,

01:07:56Oh yeah,

01:07:56he's really good.

01:07:58Yeah.

01:07:58And just the versions that he played,

01:08:01it just felt really natural and sounded natural because that's like probably how he played most.

01:08:07And that's what,

01:08:08how he learned.

01:08:08Probably it was like acoustic guitars and,

01:08:11you know,

01:08:12that kind of style.

01:08:14So it wasn't out of character when,

01:08:17When you know a lot of these unplugged albums, the revelation was, oh, this is really wild. They're playing unplugged. This is different for this band. And with Eric Clapton, yeah, he was an electric guitar player, but he was a blues man first and foremost. And, you know, that's like where it all came from. So it didn't seem like this big deal of in terms of, oh, well, Eric Clapton playing unplugged wasn't like Nirvana, right? Nirvana playing unplugged. It's whoa, you know, what's this?

01:08:46So yeah, I would say that really did propel him again into that consciousness.

01:08:53George, not to cut you off, I apologize. According to this, it was for MTV Unplugged, but it was done in England.

01:09:00Yeah, this was two years prior, 1992 for MTV Unplugged. Good call on that one. But I think this was probably the first unplugged album that everybody knew about. I mean, it may have been the first one, period, for all I know.

01:09:16But with Tears in Heaven and Layla. Before You Accused Me is actually awesome. I love that one too. His version of Layla, they completely rewrote the song structure of that. It still sounds like Layla, but it's a completely different song. Running on Faith. That's a great call. Those are the three that I thought of right off the bat. He's got a Lead Belly song on there. Alberta. Huddy William Leadbetter, a.k.a. Lead Belly.

01:09:47Which is the Nirvana, where did you sleep last night, that I just mentioned. Yeah. No, it's good. Man, he's got some people on here. Big Bill Brunzi, hey. Sunhouse, Walkin' Blues. Robert Johnson, Malted Milk. Muddy Waters, Rollin' and Tumblin'. Yes, it's a very old love Clapton, Robert Gray. Who doesn't remember Ry Cooter on that tambourine? Yeah, Ry Cooter. That dude just showed up everywhere.

01:10:16For playing with everybody on his percussion, it was awesome. He was on the congas and bongos and the timbre, you know, the time was all I loved seeing him everywhere at that time. All right. Oh, God. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll do a twofer since I'm next. Okay. That was gotta come up at some point. TR hasn't mentioned it yet, so I'm not gonna wait any longer. All right. I gotta get to other ones, but it's a twofer and you'll see why. Okay. So a lot of fans would not say this.

01:10:46is their best live album. This one has a little bit of touch up in the studio. I don't care what anybody says. You could just go pound sand. I think this live album is awesome. I identify with these versions of the songs. It is not in order. Not even remotely close to being in order. But wait. My next selection is Rush Exit.

01:11:16Stage.

01:11:17Wait.

01:11:17Exit.

01:11:18Dot.

01:11:18Dot.

01:11:18Dot.

01:11:19Yeah.

01:11:20Exit.

01:11:20Colon.

01:11:21Stage left.

01:11:22Yeah.

01:11:22Exit the colon.

01:11:23It's an ellipse.

01:11:24It's not a colon.

01:11:25Oh, it is.

01:11:25Yes.

01:11:26You're right.

01:11:26That's why I said dot, dot, dot.

01:11:28Yes.

01:11:29Released, I believe, 81.

01:11:32End to 81.

01:11:32Once it got on my sheet here.

01:11:33Yeah.

01:11:34October 81.

01:11:35Which, by the way, now, they were playing that tour all throughout 81.

01:11:39It's not all from the Moving Pictures tour.

01:11:42There's one site that's actually taken from the Permanent Waves tour.

01:11:45Yeah. Which are the songs,

01:11:47a passage to Bangkok closer to the heart beneath between the behind and Jacob's ladder.

01:11:54It's on the live vinyl,

01:11:56but on the very first CD that came out,

01:11:58it's not included.

01:11:59They had to cut a song.

01:12:01Yeah.

01:12:01Shorter than vinyl.

01:12:02No,

01:12:03they were back then.

01:12:04They couldn't go 80 minutes back then.

01:12:06They only went like 72,

01:12:0873 minutes.

01:12:09Maybe I'm wrong about that,

01:12:10but that was cut for that reason and added back once they had more capacity on CDs.

01:12:15And it used to really burn me up because that version is infinitely better than the album version. But anyway, just real quick, it's from their Moving Pictures tour. And I've said for years up until recently how I would love to have the full show because I had a terrible bootleg of this. Terrible. It is the original Russian roulette bootleg, not the Russian roulette that came out from the Roll the Bones tour, which I was actually at that show.

01:12:44That was in Oakland Coliseum. That was actually made soundboard for Les Claypool when Primus opened for Rush. He asked Rush as a fan, would you mind if I recorded the show tonight since it's a home show for me? And they let him. And that became the new Russian roulette. But the original Russian roulette was taken from March 1st, 1981 from Chicago. It's terrible. It sounds horrible. I have it on audio tape. It also includes a one time only very rare,

01:13:14Alex Lifeson acoustic guitar piece that he played one night only and actually says that you know gonna play something for you now haven't played it before you know this is the first time you're the only people are ever gonna get to hear it and it's at the very end and you can barely hear it it sounds like crap anyway just real quick if you ever want to talk about an album at the time playing other big songs yeah this would be it but the funny thing is it's only from four albums it's not from the first four albums only one two so one song from the first four albums

01:13:44Passage to Bangkok and Beneath Between and Behind. The rest are all from their prog period. Spirit of Radio, Red Barchetta, YYZ with the amazing only two and a half minute long drum solo in it. I mentioned Close to the Heart, Jacob's Ladder, Free Will, that guitar based solo in Free Will and that is just unreal. Tom Sawyer, LaVille Strangiotto, but the crown jewel of this album. And I will debate any prog nerd. I don't care how old you are.

01:14:14I don't care how many years you have under your belt. The single-handed greatest side of progressive rock music ever recorded, whether live or in studio, in my opinion, is side three of the album, which is just three songs, one of which was never released before as an official song, but it's Bruins Bane, The Trees, and Xanadu. It doesn't get any better than that. Those two versions of those songs are infinitely better than they are on the album.

01:14:44It's still taken from the live audio. Un-freaking-real. And The Bruins Bane is a long version. It's only, what, a minute? It's like a minute and a half. And I bring that up because if you don't like this version, you're like, I don't like this. It's touched up. I don't like the sound quality. It sounds too good. Meaning, like, too polished. Well, then you can get the full show, which was eventually released on Rush's 40th anniversary of Moving Pictures, live in YYZ 1981. It's still the best album that was released.

01:15:14in 2002.

01:15:16Everybody says it should still be my number one for the year.

01:15:19That's the full show, which was taken from, I believe, Maple Leaf Gardens from March 24 and 25.

01:15:27It is the exact full show, song for song.

01:15:31And the version of Bruins Bane, which is the little acoustic piece before the trees, is actually half as long as the one from the night, couple nights before when they recorded.

01:15:40I prefer the version that's twice as long.

01:15:43Well, yeah, most people do. Yes. But actually, it's, I think it's a better, it sounds, it's got more of a classical guitar sound to it. And it's almost takes you to a whole different place when you're hearing it on live. You know, when you're listening to your speakers, it's like a whole weird ethereal, you know, it's not a supernatural world, but it's a rush supernatural world because rush is supernatural. Speaking of supernatural, did you see that Jensen is going to be Ghost Rider? Is he really the new Ghost Rider? Yes.

01:16:13That, right? He's going to be like, give me a cheeseburger. Flame on. Flame broiled. There's pie. Anyway, this is the album that finally brought me to the Rush camp. My good old friend, I haven't talked to or seen in decades, Jim Rossi, is the one who kept him in my head telling me I had to be a fan and I was fighting it because I was an ACDC fan. How dare you don't like ACDC? You like Rushmore. And he was right. Rushmore?

01:16:42I mean, I always liked 2112, and I like someone moving pictures, but I wouldn't give in because all the other guys like Rush. I like Rush. Bromance. But this is the album that got me because these live versions, I mean, that drum solo, I can't tell how many times I played YYZ over, and every time they play live now, I'm expecting a drum solo in the middle of YYZ. I never get it. It pisses me off. You and Jay talked about that live album a lot, and I have not listened to this. It's so good.

01:17:11It sounds like a more live rendition than Exus Stage Left does, which sounds like there's too much bottom end, in my opinion. Exus Stage Left, I think, has too much of a polished bottom end sound to it, especially with those bass pedals. Okay. Oh, wait, maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying. Are you not saying the YYZ live album is good? Is that what you're saying?

01:17:42Oh, see, I thought it always sounded overly polished and too bloated in some spots. Well, I'm just speaking from a purely normal person. Well, no, like from the perspective of just why can't I think of wavelengths, you know what I mean? Like the low frequencies on that album are almost nowhere to be found. And while I agree that there are some bass pedal sounds on there, and maybe I just haven't listened to it on a,

01:18:11But I've always felt the fullness of the bottom end was never really there on that album.

01:18:17Maybe I'm wrong. To me, when I listen to it, it sounds overly polished.

01:18:23Well, I'm not talking about the polish of it. I'm talking about just feeling like... I just said maybe it's me. Yeah, so maybe you're right and I'm wrong.

01:18:31Well, no, nobody's right or wrong. It's just a... It's subjective. Awkward pause before we continue. Yes, maybe.

01:18:40No. No. No? All right. TR, what you got? All right. Well, this next one for me is another album that I listened to a bunch. And it's The Scorpions, Tokyo Tapes. This is one of my favorites by The Scorpes before they really got popular with their, you know, post-Uli Roth kind of alignment. This Tokyo Tapes was recorded

01:19:10recorded in 78 and as the name implies they were in Tokyo and they basically played the stuff from the early period of the band and he subsequently quit the band you know after that live album because you know the band was going in a different direction than he wanted to go and I think he felt like he just needed to move on and do what he wanted to do. This is a really great performance they all sound really good.

01:19:39They play a bunch of their tracks from the earlier Scorpion stuff, which I love. When they came out with the 50th anniversary deluxe edition in 2015, they added a few more songs from the shows into the recording, which was cool, so that you get the full show and all of the tracks. And so it goes all the way back to the first album where they play In Search of the Peace of Mind. Also, more recent tracks like Suspender Love and

01:20:09stuff off of he's a woman, she's a man, you know, top of the bill, robot man, stuff from Entrance and the albums like just in their 70s period there. And so I love it. It's a great performance. They're all still together with Oli and another kind of snapshot in time that I think that, you know, after Love It First Sting came out and they did Worldwide Live, you know, if they hadn't put this out, it never would have come out.

01:20:37So I'm glad that it's out. And I really, I do love this album a lot. Do you ever think about, you know, there's people that like leave bands before they become mega huge. And you got to wonder, like Uli was like, all right, I'm out. And then the Scorpions were like, ta-da, love it first sting. We're freaking huge. Or even blackout for that matter. But the thing is, he wouldn't have had anything to do with that. Like that was just not his style.

01:21:05It wasn't his style, but man, did he leave at the wrong time, financially speaking. I think he's always been very satisfied with where his career went and the music that he played because he did what he wanted to do. And, you know, he stuck by what, you know, his creative muse, you know, took him in the directions that he went. And he's never really been, obviously he's well loved among guitar people and always did the people that know guitar players know how great of a guitar player he is.

01:21:35and they admire him and he's well loved. Obviously, he never achieved the level of fame and popularity that the Scorpions went on to once they started playing more popular rock music. But all that being said, you know, I don't think he has any regrets. Actually, you know, for a long time, he kind of want to say disowned that early Scorpion stuff. But he, you know, when he left them, he really left them. And I think he, you know, didn't really acknowledge a lot of that Scorpion stuff.

01:22:05stuff till much later when he revisited it in more recent times. And I think he discovered how good that stuff was and how much people love it. And so, you know, now when he goes on tour, and this is a lot like Steve Hackett, who I also will name in another album here coming up soon, spoiler alert, he does like a set of his own solo stuff. And then he does a set of his old Scorpion stuff.

01:22:33And everybody's happy, right? Like it's every, you get everything. So anyway, Tokyo tapes, great album, double album set picture, like a, you know, snapshot in time of a great band that kind of never sounded like that ever again. Really? The songs that he added, were they put in order of the show or were they just tacked on at the end? No, they inserted them. Okay, cool. It was like, they put them where they belonged in the show set.

01:23:04Yeah, I hate when those early or mid-70s, late-70s albums that come out, they're like single albums, and they're like, well, we're going to give you bonus tracks, and then they just tack them on the back. So I was like, don't go to any trouble here with this. Jeez, thanks. It's great to get the songs, but who gives it correctly? I like when bands actually put them in order. All right. I thought this one would come up by now, but it hasn't.

01:23:33So here it is. My list. This is the, you know, there is a Speak of the Devil album. Whatever. But this features the words. No, I know. Okay. But it's not Randy Rhoads. Still awesome. Still awesome. Brad, right? Brad Gillis, yeah. Night Ranger, yeah. But Tribute was Ozzy's tribute to guitar player Randy Rhoads.

01:24:04as everybody or hopefully everybody knows. Randy was the guitar player on the first two Ozzy albums before perishing in a ridiculous airplane crash that did not need to happen. But this live album was a tribute to Randy. And honestly, one of my favorite live albums, probably of all time, covering songs from the first two.

01:24:33Ozzy solo albums.

01:24:35You know, this was probably one of my favorite live albums early on because this came out in the 80s, 87 to be precise.

01:24:46And, you know, that was a few years after Randy had died.

01:24:52I came into the Ozzy camp after Randy had died.

01:24:56So it was like this legendary thing, even though it was only a few years later.

01:25:00And when this came out, it was like, well, geez, this is Randy. I need to check this out. It was amazing. And it features all the classic songs. I don't know. Crazy Train, Believer, Mr. Crowley, Flying High Again, Suicide Solution, you know, stuff from the first two albums, plus some Sabbath, Iron Man, Children of the Grave, Paranoid. It's nice that we have something like this to commemorate Randy Rhodes.

01:25:29Beyond the two studio albums that we have. I agree. 1000%. I love this album. It's not the best recording, but it doesn't matter because it's still awesome. Was this actually on the Diver of Madman tour or was that in between? Because they only play two songs from Diver of Madman on this tour. It's actually made up of two shows, the tribute, because the last two songs, Goodbye to Romance and No Bone movies, were taken from another show.

01:25:58Yeah, and D is on there as well. D, yeah, the outtakes to D. So I guess he released an EP from Mr. Crowley that had You Said It All on there, I think. And me looking at you, you look at me, whatever that song was called, I think that's on there too. I could be wrong. But there's a song on there that they only played once during a sound check. And they put it on this Mr. Crowley EP.

01:26:27And I think that's the same show

01:26:29that those two songs, Goodbye to Romance and No Bone movies, were taken from.

01:26:33Because the rest of the show, I believe, is taken from Cleveland in 1981 in May.

01:26:39It's awesome.

01:26:39I mean, the intro opens with O. Futruna, just the way it comes out.

01:26:44And he comes out, he's like, rock and roll, you know, all that stuff.

01:26:47And then it just rips right into I don't know, which is by far, I think, still the better version compared to the studio version.

01:26:57It's the solo Darren Suicide Solution is unreal how good it is. Yeah, I'm glad you picked that. That's a great album. This is one of those live albums that you're like, all right, this at least competes, if not exceeds the studio output. I will agree. Those, you know, 11 songs minus the two that I mentioned from the other show, they only do a few more songs. I mean, the show is only an hour long. Yeah. On that tour. It was ridiculous. They're only playing for 13 songs.

01:27:25maybe max and three of our black sabbath songs what are they the ramones

01:27:30yeah exactly now the sad thing about this is when they started issuing the remasters

01:27:35they cut that whole intro out so it just goes right to hear this rock and roll it goes right into i

01:27:41don't know so you don't get the whole build-up of fortuna yeah you don't get that build-up and it's

01:27:46just that's what sells this live album because it's it just sounds so raw too which because it's not the

01:27:52And this was released again, another version of this tour was released on the anniversary edition of Diary of a Madman, which is another show. And it's basically the same set list for the most part. There's a 2002 edition, and perhaps that's what you're referring to. Yeah, and then it got released again, I don't know how many years later for another anniversary, but that 2002 is the evil edition. Produced by who? Any guesses? Go ahead. Tell us. Bruce Dickinson.

01:28:22and cowbell in there? No. Yeah. Is that the one where they removed some musicians and added musicians to play their parts? Did they do that on Tribute as well? Oh, no. I was talking about, I thought you were referring to the anniversary edition of Diver Madman. No. Because that's where the other show was released. Yeah. No. The Sharon Osbourne. Yeah. Bad things. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you were referring to that. No. Okay. My understanding is that they have since then put the original recordings back.

01:28:52That was all just a marketing

01:28:58BS ploy by her.

01:29:00A way to not pay royalties.

01:29:03Yeah, she can go away.

01:29:06All right, where to go?

01:29:08I got a whole list.

01:29:10What should I do?

01:29:12I'm going to do an album that you probably wouldn't think would come up

01:29:17because there's so many great live albums, but this is going to be probably

01:29:21one of the latest ones.

01:29:22for me was released in 2001 so it's not that new mine was recorded in san francisco at the famous fillmore which i've been to many times the new version of the film we're not the old version or burned down or burned not burned down but my album is joe satriani live in san francisco from the recordings taking place in december 28th and or december 29th like i said

01:29:52from the Fillmore. It is during his Engines of Creation tour and probably is the best snapshot of his career. He's got a few live albums, but that's probably the best one, I think, because it covers the first eight albums. It's got the Stu Hamby's and it's at the Fillmore, so it's not a big place. It only holds about a thousand people. He's just absolutely on fire that night. The whole band is just, and that's when he started.

01:30:22used four-piece bands, especially for the recorded stuff, you know, when they record at live shows. It's just chalked fill of all his great songs up to that point. He had just released Inges of Creation, which was his kind of techno album, which it's, now I go back and listen to and I appreciate it a lot more, but all the versions of those songs on this album are not techno. Right. And they, when you put real drums under it, it actually really rocks. And real bass. Yeah.

01:30:52He's not using that synth bass. These songs slay. And if you don't believe me, go listen to Devil's Slide, which by the way, Devil's Slide is, I believe, named after the highway right by the house I grew up in in California. And we used to drive it all the time. And you can't drive that part of Devil's Slide anymore because it slid into the ocean. They finally built the tunnel through the mountain. Took them only 30 years. There's another song on there called Borg Sex, which is unreal. It's so good. Yeah, the Borg.

01:31:22I mean, it happens fast. Galaxies are falling left and right. I should say star systems. But got all great songs. I mean, all the stuff off of Surf with the Alien, like Satch Boogie, Always With Me, Always With You, Surf with the Alien. Two or three best, second or third best song ever. Which one did you say? Big Bad Man. Oh, yeah. That's solo and that is just absolutely vicious. Summer Song. And then all this stuff off of his Crystal Plans.

01:31:52album which had come out two albums prior to this release which i go back and forth

01:31:58between that and surfing as my favorite album from him oh and let's not forget the mystical

01:32:03potato head groove thing is on there yep cool yeah that's a good choice and you know i don't know

01:32:12why but i don't know if i have that album that's like just if you're a satrioni like

01:32:19I mean, I have everything by him, but I just really a fan. I am looking at this set list. It's yeah. What am I thinking? I need to have this. Yeah, that's wow. Wow. Game of Thrones and a little word called shame. All right. Well, probably would need to have to look. I may even have it.

01:32:49It's just that for whatever reason, I didn't put it on my computer here. If I don't have it, though, I am definitely going and getting it. I think the next one I'm going to go with, I'm going to do a twofer. And John, I'm sorry if I'm going to steal some thunder, but I'm picking Porcupine Tree. And I'm picking two albums for different reasons. The first one is Coma Divine, which is really the first live Porcupine Tree album.

01:33:19that I heard. And it's of the signify tour. And it's like, still when they were playing like a lot of that, not early stuff, but like mid period porcupine tree. And I don't know, just that timeframe. In other words, the things that came later, it eclipsed it in terms of popularity and people coming to the band. I feel like this is a really good live album.

01:33:49They're playing songs that they quit playing after a while, which after any band goes through a number of different periods and creates a lot of music, it's hard to continue to play everything from every period. And there are a couple of tracks that they did play later on that they resurrected like Dark Matter and A Smart Kid and those tracks that they played on later tours. But hearing all this stuff on this album, which is actually played

01:34:19in Italy during the Signify tour is a really great collection of songs from Porcupine Tree at this period and a very good live performance as well. I think it's pretty well recorded. It sounds good. So that's one. The other is Atlanta, which is the show from 2007. And this is the bookend to the Heaven and Hell show because when I got back

01:34:49from Iraq. This was one of the first shows I went to. I went because I missed the tour earlier in the year. I went down to Atlanta to see this show with my friend David Reynolds, who is a listener of this podcast. So I want to say hey to him. What up? Yeah. And so we went to see Porcupine Tree in Atlanta in 2007 in October on the Fear of a Blank Planet tour. At the time, of course, we didn't know that the show was going to be recorded. It ended up being recorded. They didn't put it out right

01:35:19They chose a different show from that tour that they actually ended up putting out. But they later released that as a benefit, I think, to Mick Karn. I can't remember who they donated some of the proceeds to a friend of the band. So anyway, it was really cool to see that show. They played Half Light during that show, which was a cool track for them to play and unexpected at the time. And then, you know, to be able to get that show later and feel

01:35:49like, oh, wow, I was there. And that was a cool show. Of course, they actually edited some of the things that he said in between the songs out. Because I remember him talking about some things that, you know, when you listen to the show, it's not in there anymore. It's unfortunate because, well, one of the things that after he played Half-Life, he made some kind of comment to the effect of, you know, he was happy with how he was really nervous about playing that song and, you know, ensuring that because there's a lot of slide guitar on that.

01:36:18And he was relieved that it turned out okay. He was like, shoot. And of course they didn't put that on the album, but it was cool at the time to actually be there and hear him say that. So anyway, those are my two picks. I love Porcupine Tree and didn't discover them as early as John, but have loved them, you know, ever since I, you know, did find them. And my buddy Marty, who introduced me to them, was a good friend of all the Porcupine Tree community. And he passed away in 2008 or nine.

01:36:47I can't recall now, but he was a Porcupine Tree fan, and he was one of the people that got me into them, and I've loved them ever since. I went and saw them on the last tour, which was really cool to see them after years and years of them not being a going concern, but they sounded great. I miss John Wesley, but it was really cool to see them live again. No, that's good. That's a good selection. However, I'm surprised you didn't mention the second part of Koma Divine, which is Koma Kota.

01:37:17which is the other unreleased material that they finally got back out which is a big deal because it's got cryogenics on it which i believe is the only actual official release of that song i might have that on a few unofficial releases but i will just quickly add that the version of the sky move sideways off of coma divine is probably the best live

01:37:47version of any of their songs, in my opinion, that version of that song. And it's not even the full song. It's only three parts of the four parts because it's a prog song. So it's got to have four parts. It's got to be at least 18 minutes long. It has to have Roman numerals. Yeah. Do they use, I've got so many different versions of the album. Certainly Voyage 34 had phase two. Yeah. There's four phases of that. So I agree. It's, I think it's a great album. I love it. That's the album that I got into.

01:38:17First. I heard Signify off of that. This is before Stupid Dream came out. And I was like, whoa, who is this band I've missed? And I got that. And I was just like, I'm in. I'm sold. So, and in terms of Atlanta, I will say that I saw five shows on that tour. I did not go to Atlanta. Because at that point, I had exhausted my touring. But I will say, when I saw them at the House of Blues in Cleveland, they did play Half Light that night.

01:38:46So I did get a chance to see it on that tour. But that was the only night of the five nights I saw where they played it. So and it was a strange tour because the first part of the tour, I think they were doing the whole new album, Fear of a Blank Planet, at the beginning. And the album hadn't even been released yet, I thought. Yeah. So we had seen it a few times and we're like, whoa, this is definitely different. And then they did a more proper mixed tour where the songs were mixed up in the set.

01:39:16To come out with new material no one had heard yet, that was really... And I remember just because we went to at least three of those shows. And by the way through the second into the third, I was starting to feel like I knew what was coming. And it was starting to sink in a little because we hadn't heard any of it. The only way we had heard it was live. I stand corrected. I saw 10 shows on that tour. Oh my God. I stand corrected.

01:39:46I forgot. There was also 2006. Yes, the first leg, which is when they were doing that. Because we saw them at the first time I saw was at the Nokia Theater in Times Square. And then we saw them at the Keswick. The Birchmere or something? No, State Theater. State Theater, that's it. Okay. Yes. And then I went out to see them in California. I went to LA and San Francisco. Okay. That was the 2006 part. I forgot about those five. My bad. I apologize. That's great.

01:40:16Two good albums.

01:40:18All right, George.

01:40:18Wake up, George.

01:40:19Sorry, I was taking a little nap there.

01:40:21Yeah, that's all right.

01:40:23You hate Porcupine Tree.

01:40:25What's wrong with you, man?

01:40:27Yeah, how could you hate them like you do?

01:40:29I don't hate them.

01:40:30Oh, I see what you're doing there.

01:40:32Yeah, I hate them all right.

01:40:33That's it.

01:40:34All right, well, I have another one for you if you want to just keep rolling around the room.

01:40:39I can do a couple more and then maybe just run off the list.

01:40:43Quick honorable mentions.

01:40:45Yeah.

01:40:45So this is a lot to take in. Yeah, it is. We could have probably done two shows of this. Yeah. So this one's from my brother from another mother, Jay Dickinson. Deep purple made in Japan. Wow. You know, he would be all over this one. Yes, he would. This was recorded during their first tour of Japan in 1972, released at the end of 1972.

01:41:15My List of Top Live Albums. I mean, this one's... I actually have this one on vinyl. It's pretty killer, you know. Highway Star, Child in Time, Smoke in the Water. What? Have you heard that one? Smoke in the Water. It's a pretty good song if you haven't heard it. Maybe, yeah. Lazy, Space Truckin'. I don't know. Lazy? I feel like they're lazy with lazy. Don't you think they're lazy with lazy? A little bit. But it's still cool. Yeah, you know. Not a lot to say about it. It's a cool album. I like it.

01:41:45It's deep purple. Go. Yeah. Well, and that had to be their peak, but it was certainly the high times of, you know, their output. Mark two period. I think. I hope. I don't know, but I know it was at least Mark two because Ian was there. At minimum. Yeah. Anywho. No, it's good. I mean, it's an absolute classic. I mean, and it's not something that's finally gotten a better release.

01:42:15in terms of,

01:42:16did they ever give that a more finished with extra material?

01:42:20I feel like they did.

01:42:22Yeah.

01:42:23Anniversary edition,

01:42:24but there's a 3d set.

01:42:26Yeah.

01:42:26There's seven songs and it's 80 minutes long.

01:42:29It's crazy.

01:42:31Cause you know,

01:42:31space trucking while four and a half,

01:42:33five minutes on album's gotta be 20 minutes live.

01:42:36Yeah.

01:42:36And lazy.

01:42:37Well,

01:42:37they get a little lazy with that.

01:42:38So yeah,

01:42:40but yeah,

01:42:40I mean,

01:42:41they're not a jam band.

01:42:43Exactly.

01:42:44Not like fish,

01:42:45But they're a jam band, right? Everybody in the 70s was a jam band at this point. Yeah. Truth. I mean, you look at those, that early Rainbow Live album. It's like the songs are all like just 15, 20 minutes long. Yeah. Nuts. Yeah. I'm going to pick an album that's three hours and seven minutes long. Is it? Yes. I would never, ever buy a Tales for Topographic Oceans tour album. Ooh.

01:43:16Just a guess. Yes. No. This is also a, and maybe not a band that people listen to this podcast would think of, but I'm doing it just because you're not going to get much more of a bang for your buck on this. And I use those words very loosely when I get to a certain part of talking about some, but my next album also released in 2001. So another later one is Dream Theater's live scenes from New York, which is, I'm not joking.

01:43:45Three Hours and Seven Minutes. Yes. And I will tell you, I have been to some of their three-hour shows back when they used to do those. Yes. Wow. That's a good choice, John. Back then, I did. You're kidding me? So on this album, they do all of Scenes from Memory, which is Metropolis Part 2. So they open up and they play the whole album. I don't know, it's an hour and ten minutes or something like that. Let's take a break.

01:44:15do another 50-minute set where they cover songs from throughout their catalog. They do some real rare stuff like Cotton and New Millennium, which is basically two songs merged together, Cotton and Web and New Millennium. They did do some stuff like Acid Rain, which is from an offshoot band called Liquid Tension Experiment. And then they decide, well, you know, we got to have a third disc. Let's do a third disc that's another hour's worth of music.

01:44:45which then they do the album suite a mind beside itself which is off of the album awake which is three songs erotomania voices the silent man that together is 20 plus minutes you know we put all three together you know all right we're not done there let's do learning to live there's another 14 minutes and after all that let's encore with a 24 minute song a change of seasons which yes their peak in terms of

01:45:15what they were playing. And I'm an uber fan of the 90s material. I am a fan after that. But the 90s material is where my jam is at. And they played this at the Roseland Ballroom in New York. I did not go to the show, even though I could have gotten tickets for it. I just was like, why don't we go up to New York at the time? And it just so happens that this album comes with a little bit of unintended controversy. Yes, I was going to say. Not intended.

01:45:44They intended it. So this album was released on September 11th, 2001. Oops. The issue. The issue is they have a logo off of two album covers, images and words in their live at marquee, which is a burning heart with thorns around it. So for this album, they changed the burning heart to the New York apple. And they have the apple on fire, like the burning heart from the previous albums with thorns around it.

01:46:13But they put the New York skyline in the background in the flames. And wouldn't you know it, the Twin Towers are in the image. So they had to pull the album the day of its release because of what happened, because it released that day. So it was unfortunate for them, and they had to change the cover. Yeah, I've got that as well. Because I went, you know, in the old days, when the record store around here, Record and Tape Traders was still around.

01:46:43I would go, you know, and this I'm pretty sure that was a Tuesday because that's when records were released. And I would go first thing, like whenever I could get out of work or whatever, I'd dash down to record and tape traders. And they still had some of the promotional posters with the original artwork, which I was able to snag along with the original discs. So, yeah, that was highly unfortunate because I know that cost the band a lot, right? Because then here's this, they've been waiting to put this album out and then that happens. And now we've got to pull all this.

01:47:13And they didn't want to offend anybody. And it was a horrible thing for this country. And to see that they didn't want people to be traumatized at all. So it was the right thing to do, I guess. But it's just it's a shame that that's what happened at that time. And they took some guff for it, too. And I was like, well, how would they know? Because there's no way. I mean, the album was done and dusted months before this. You know, so I was not able to buy it in the store the day it was released because I was in a hospital after almost getting killed.

01:47:43a car accident. Wow. Because I was on Capitol Hill that day, not knowing what was coming my way. And I had to leave DC as quickly as possible. So I had to go to the store. I dated by it. So I'm surprised that I must've ordered online and got my copy. Anyway, if you're looking for music. That's the place for it. This is it, baby. Yeah. And also after this show, when it happened, drummer Mike Portnoy, as the band was all,

01:48:13kind of celebrating the fact that they just finished this epic show. He collapsed and ended up in the hospital from dehydration, I guess. And the band had no idea what happened to him. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. Hey, where's Mike? Yeah, because it was such kind of, as I understand the story, that's what happened. There's so much commotion afterwards, you know. Oh, my God, we just did this huge show. It was a huge stage thing they did. They brought extra musicians in for it. He absolutely had just bottomed out. He was just so physically spent from that.

01:48:43show. Interesting. All right. TR you got anything else? Yeah. So we might as well do the thing that we talked about in the beginning of the show, which is the live show that all of us attended. Yes. Which was fate's warning. Awaken the guardian at Prague power in 2016. So it was the 30th anniversary of awaken the guardian and John arch.

01:49:13got back together with the band to do these live performances of the album in its entirety along with some extra tracks and they only played a couple of shows where they did this and one of them was at Prog Power in Atlanta and John, George and I all went down because there was no way that we were going to miss this and you want to talk about this is another one where the anticipation of this show was so huge to me just oh my gosh we're going to actually see this.

01:49:42I couldn't even believe it. Everything was fulfilled, you know, like they sounded great. John Arch sounded amazing. The band sounded great. It was a really good show. And then of course, you know, they recorded it and put it out, which is even better. So yeah, so I, that was so cool to see that with you guys and just taking a show that I think a lot of people never thought they would see and to be there physically to see it and be there to experience that was so,

01:50:12And now to have the live show that we can always go listen to and be like, yep, I'm in there somewhere shouting for this band in this recording somehow. Yeah. John's been to a few dozen of these, whatever. I've been to one Prog Power. One. Oh, hey, you picked the right one. And it was this one. Because not that I don't like the bands that come to Prog Power. I do. It's just that it's in Atlanta. You know, my brother lives there, whatever. But you know, but.

01:50:42As soon as they announced this, I was like, Oh, I'm going to this. I have to go to this. And I was like, Wait, John knows this thing. John, I'm going to this. But yeah, no, I had to go to this. So you got a taste of it. And I know TR has been to a few prog powers. When you go on Friday night, before the final band plays, they do a video presentation. They used to announce on online, and then they started doing video presentations.

01:51:12of who's playing at next year's fest. Vaken does that too. Yeah, and it was, it's now four days, four full days, but back then, you know, it was, that probably was four days, I think it was. The earlier days were a lot smaller. But they generally only do days three and four, which are the main days that Glenn, the promoter, has been doing since day one. They do the videos for that. Now they're doing videos for at least day two, sometimes day one.

01:51:42But Friday night is the premiere for the main fest is always Friday and Saturday. And when this came up on this and what they do on the screen is they do this quick montage and you're hearing like noise and bum and they're doing this like a little theme or whatever it is and they do quick snapshots of the band's images and if you're not paying attention you'll miss it. And a couple times you're like, whoa, I think I know who that band is. And then you're like, maybe not. And you have to wait and see. And then they'll start playing a song and then the name will come up on the screen.

01:52:12And when this came up, and I can't remember what song it was they played. And the place just, a speech warning with John Arch, 30th anniversary of Waking the Guardian, absolutely erupted. Yeah, like 19,000 people needed diapers instantly. Even though it was only 1,300, but well, you know. It felt like 19,000. Just obviously, it's the right crowd, right? The people that are there,

01:52:42for frog power that you're stoking up for next year it's you know that's exactly who's going to get excited about it but every now and then they have something like that which is even beyond what you know what even the biggest fans would be like would be over the moon about so yeah i can't imagine being in the audience when they played that video to show like yeah here's what's coming next year yeah i mean everyone just absolutely went crazy it was hard to describe what it was like

01:53:12to be there. I mean, just to see that. What did Crazy Mike do? Holding up his albums? What was the band? It was at Rage that he was just going absolutely crazy for. Is he still there? I believe he's back, but he's a much more subdued guy now. He's not as crazy as he used to be. He's matured a little? Yes, a little bit. I'm trying to remember when I saw Arch Matheos. They did a show, I thought, in Connecticut. I can't find it. We went to something.

01:53:43I know.

01:53:45I can't remember what year that was.

01:53:47No.

01:53:48Was it that?

01:53:49Oh,

01:53:50that was a while ago.

01:53:52But I was trying to figure out when we saw that.

01:53:55Cause I know we went to that.

01:53:56Yeah.

01:53:57I've been up there twice.

01:53:57I've went up for the parallels.

01:53:59Oh yeah.

01:54:00And that's where I begrudgingly went back to that venue.

01:54:02Cause that was so hot in that,

01:54:04that time.

01:54:04And I saw that.

01:54:05Well,

01:54:05and it was again,

01:54:07when we went,

01:54:08uh,

01:54:08here it is.

01:54:09May 5th,

01:54:102012.

01:54:10So we had already seen.

01:54:12Okay, 2012.

01:54:13We already see John Arch and Jim Mateos playing together.

01:54:16Yeah, but not.

01:54:18Well, and actually they did play some old Fates tunes.

01:54:21They did, because it was basically Fates Warning with just John Arch singing.

01:54:25It was everyone in the band with some Fates Warning.

01:54:27Yeah.

01:54:27It was the current version of the band.

01:54:29Just with him.

01:54:30No, Mark Zonder wasn't on that album.

01:54:32That's Steve Zimmerman.

01:54:33Yeah.

01:54:33Yeah.

01:54:34But no, when we saw the Arch Mateos, Frank Oresti was still there.

01:54:37So they had three of the five guys.

01:54:39Yeah, yeah.

01:54:40Joey Varen.

01:54:41That was Ron Jarzombik. But when I saw the Parallels tour, I got to see them with Zonder. Oh, okay. Yeah. And the show we saw was, was it DiBiase was in the band? Yeah. And then Steve Zimmerman and Frank Oresti and Demetheus and Arch. So that's a good one. Yeah. Had to pick one. All three of us were there, you know. Yeah. They did two. I completely forgot about that too. They did two shows for that and they released both shows, audio and video together in one package, which I

01:55:11I thought was really cool. Yeah. And I believe the original artist of the album did the artwork for the live album too. Cool. All right. I guess we're back around to George. I'm done. I'm toast. I mean, I've got. Well, give us your honorables. All right. Yeah. Let's do it. My honorables albums that follows are. Yeah. Led Zeppelin. How the West was won. Oh, yes. That is a good one.

01:55:41One. Excellent.

01:55:42Jimmy Hendrix plays Monterey.

01:55:46I feel like I'm announcing the, like, Oscar nominations.

01:55:50And now, yes.

01:55:51Muddy Waters at Newport 1960.

01:55:56Kiss Alive.

01:55:58Of course.

01:56:00The Who Live at Leeds.

01:56:02Oh, it's awesome.

01:56:04That's good.

01:56:05Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison.

01:56:08The Allman Brothers at Fillmore East.

01:56:10Yeah, man. That's good. The little-known Iron Maiden Live After Death. It's an obscure album there, George. Followed by another completely obscure one, Scorpions Worldwide Live. Not at all mentioned last episode. Yeah. Queen, Twofer Live at Wembley, and Live Killers. Those are good. ACDC, If You Want Blood, You've Got It. You've Got It.

01:56:40Warren Zvon's Stand in the Fire. I should have expected that. You should have. Yeah. There you go. My turn. Uh-huh. So I'm going to hearken back to the old days of the Metalheads podcast when it was George's turn for what are you listening to? Back in the day. All right. Now, these first couple ones were ones I was going to talk about that we didn't get to, and that's okay. I will not mention anything about them just real quick. I also had Bloister Cult, Some Enchanted Evening on my list.

01:57:11This one is just for me, but I absolutely love this album. It's The Flower King's Alive on Planet Earth. I always liked that album. I thought they sounded great on that. Nobody mentioned it, and I didn't mention it either. I'll mention this another one, Iron Maiden, Beast Over Hammersmith. Of course, I don't care what anyone says. That's the best live maiden album ever. Jay agrees with me. Okay, so now here's my long list of ones I just had, but I wasn't going to talk about. All right, this will go fast.

01:57:40I promise. All right. The band, The Last Waltz. Okay. David Bowie, Santa Monica 72 to David Bowie stage. All right. A show I was at, I went by myself for that show. I didn't go with anybody. Dream Theater Score, which was at Radio City. Yeah. All right. Fate's Warning, Still Life. All right. George doesn't like this one, but I like it. Peter Frampton Comes Alive. Mentioned on a previous episode, Peter Gabriel Plays Live. Yes. All right. The Gathering, Sleepy Buildings, The Gathering, The Noise Severe, The Gathering,

01:58:10Sound Relief. All right. Here's a band that you TRI mentioned. Genesis Live. Genesis 2nd. Oh. George mentioned Jimi Hendrix. I want to mention Jimi Hendrix Bandit Gypsies. I'll say two words. Machine Gun. Yeah, baby. That's all you need to hear. That version's amazing. All right. Here's an Iron Maid we didn't mention. Rock in Rio. Oh, yeah. That's a good one, too. Yeah. All right. King Crimson, Absent Lovers, Live in Montreal 1984. TRI, you might like that because that's basically what the beat thing is going to be when we see it.

01:58:40Okay. Mentioned on a previous episode, the kinks one for the road. All right. Marillion. Real to real. You guys wouldn't know it. I do. Here's one that wasn't mentioned that should be mentioned. Can you talk any faster? Yeah. Yes. I still got 10 more. Yeah. The Rolling Stones. Get your yaya's out. Awesome. All right. Rush all the world stage. Rush and Rio. What is it with Rio and these bands? I know. All right. Band Saga in transit. Brought up on a previous episode. Sting. Bring on the night. Yeah.

01:59:10Heads Stop Making Sense, Devin Townsend, The Retinal Circus, U2 Under Blood Red Sky.

01:59:15I knew you were going to say that one.

01:59:17Wings, Wings Over America.

01:59:20By the way, maybe I'm amazed.

01:59:22Best version ever is from that show.

01:59:24And then an absolutely terrible sounding live recording, but is iconic amongst the

01:59:29Yes Hobbits.

01:59:31Yes.

01:59:32Yes songs.

01:59:33That's what I was thinking earlier.

01:59:36Okay.

01:59:37Nice.

01:59:38Mic drop.

01:59:39Yeah.

01:59:40And actually, you took a bunch off my list, so I've got even fewer now, which is good. So I'm going to throw in a few. So one Journey album I didn't mention but wanted to is the Journey Through Time that Neil Sean did with where they played all the early Journey stuff, like from the first three albums, that stuff. And they played Perry stuff on that too, but they went out in 2018 and then they released it in 2023.

02:00:09And that was a really cool recording of that live early journey stuff. And so I was glad that they did that. Because there really aren't any really good recordings of that really early stuff. You know, there are some boots out there, but usually the sound quality isn't so great. And now there is. Yeah. And then Pink Floyd Pulse. Oh, excellent. And of course, you got to throw in Delicate Sound of Thunder for the Momentary Lapse Tour before that.

02:00:38And then we covered a bunch of Rush, but I think John mentioned it because we were talking about Hammersmith, the Rush Different Stages, Disc 3, the 1978 live show from Rush, which is nice. And so it was a nice bridge between All the Worlds of Stage and Exit Stage Left to capture some of the songs that weren't on either of those. So getting that third live disc on different stages, which came out in 1997, which was, I guess, the full show off of the reissue with A Farewell of the Kings off the box set.

02:01:07Still well worth it.

02:01:09And then I wanted to mention, I mentioned it during the regular part of this, but Steve Hackett, nice thing is he's basically been recording every one of his tours since, you know, for the last 10 years. So if you go see him, you'll probably be able to get, you know, the tour that you saw. And one of the one that I picked here is Wuthering Nights from 2017 when he was doing a bunch of tracks from Wind and Wuthering.

02:01:32And on that, the kind of the thing that made it worth the price of admission was he does a live version of Inside and Out, which was a rare Genesis track from one of their EPs. I just wanted to say that Metallica does that as well. They record their shows and then you can download the live version of the show you were at. And so what I meant was, and that's cool, but what I meant is like Steve Hackett will typically record one night from whatever tour and then make

02:02:02that available to everybody. So, you know, but it's a, you know. An official release. Yeah, it's an official release that, you know, he puts out for, okay, for the, here's this tour that, you know, we did. Gotcha. Cool, right? Yeah. Well, you know, that's pretty cool to get the show you were at. I mean, I think Peter Gabriel did that for some shows and Genesis did that too for that last tour, I think. King Crimson's done that too. They've released hundreds and hundreds of live shows. I mean, Fish does it. Yeah. But who wants to hear?

02:02:32Nobody wants to hear fish. Come on. Just joking. Just joking. All right. So you already mentioned Unleashed, but I'm going to throw in Live Vengeance 82, Tangerine Dream Encore, which is from like 1977. The Queensryche EP that got released with all the live in Tokyo stuff from 1984. I think that's a really cool performance. Rainbow on stage. Here's the Yes album that didn't get mentioned, Keys to Ascension. I always felt like that was a really good record.

02:03:03and a really good selection of songs. So that was my Yes Live album choice. This is a rare U2 album that was, I think, only made available to the fan club, but U2 Live at the Marquee 1980. This is before they hit it big, and I really like that early, early U2 stuff. So that's one of my favorites. Dream Theater, Once in a Live Time. That was a pretty good live set that they did that also had some of the, what do you call it, the pieces of the Change of Seasons.

02:03:32And a bunch of cover songs that were added and mixed in with songs and everything. And then another show that John and I attended, which was Pagan's Mind Full Circle at Prog Power. That was very good. That was a really good show. And I really enjoyed that. That was so cool to see them. And we're going to see them again this year. Osric Tentacles, live at the Pongmasters Ball. Had to throw in Osric's in there. That thing is awesome. It's so good. That's a great album. Again, it's actually, it's recorded well, you know, it actually sounds good, which is nice.

02:04:02You can actually hear the bass. Seaweed's awesome. His guitar is so whiny. Yeah. Yeah. And then, John, I'm surprised I didn't get a couple of these. The Opeth live in concert, Royal Albert Hall and the Roundhouse tapes. Thought I'd throw those in because I like them. Oh, I, yeah. I tried to keep them as close to more of the rock stuff. Yeah, sure. That's the only reason why. Otherwise, I would have put them on. Yeah, I threw in some. How about that new Opeth song? Oh, yeah.

02:04:32Oh my god he's growling I'm like oh my god there's guitars

02:04:37digging it I guess a slightly different approach I was like oh heavy guitars yeah well I'm curious like

02:04:43what the rest of this album is going to sound like now yes we all are yeah we're going to see him either way yeah well yeah that's for sure by the way chair you mentioned Steve Hackett here's another one Steve Hackett at Near Fest oh yeah I don't know if you have that Near Fest recordings were awesome

02:05:01When they had them, they were so good. If we're going to say that, Porcupine Tree at Near Fest, that's the first time I ever saw them. I might have that as an unofficial release. Well, that's my list. All right. We didn't even mention half of them. I know. There's so many more that we could have put in here that, you know, I just quit after I filled a couple of pages. Foghead live. Oh, so I just remembered something I was going to say when I was talking about the album and I completely forgot about it.

02:05:31But I was talking about Motorhead's live No Sleep Till Hammersmith. My very first Motorhead purchase, the very first time I heard Motorhead, was not No Sleep Till Hammersmith, was not any of the first three albums. It was a live album that came out later in 1983 from a show

02:06:01recorded in 1978 called What's Words Worth? And it was horrible. And I said, this is Motorhead? No, thank you. Now, honestly, I haven't listened to it since the early 80s. It might actually be good now. But at the time, this was like absolute garbage to me. I was like, no, Motorhead, no.

02:06:29And so when I finally heard good motorhead, I was like, oh, okay. But yeah, this was one of those bargain bin purchases of a cassette. It's like, yeah, motorhead. I've heard of them. Okay, let's grab that. And no. And then you found out why it was in the bargain bin. What's Woods worth? Yeah, it was not good. The Watcher, it's got Iron Horse, Born to Lose, On Parole, White Line Feedback,

02:07:01Yeah, that's why. That's why.

02:07:04I got two more real quick. We didn't mention Black Sabbath, live at Hammersmith Odeon.

02:07:10That I still think is the best DO live.

02:07:13That is really good.

02:07:15Not live evil. This one I think is even better.

02:07:18Yes, I agree.

02:07:18And if there are any Blue Isps Oyster Cult fans out there, they're right now cursing at me because I picked some Enchanted Evening.

02:07:26Yes, I know. On your feet or on your knees is a much better live album. I know that. Some Enchanted Evening holds a special place for me, though. Cool. All right. I think we have reached the end. Yes. This is the end. I enjoyed talking about live albums. That was cool. I like to give them a spin because it makes me feel like I'm back at the show or what it would be like to be at the show. Yeah. Well, and with some of these, it's like I went to that tour.

02:07:56or I saw that band during that time. And it does bring back, you know, it's a nostalgia thing and brings back good memories and thinking about, you know, going to shows and being young buddies and yeah, being young and what was going on at that time. And just, you know, when your biggest, you know, worry was whether you're going to, you know, pass pre-calculus or whatever, or algebra two or whatever. Or even algebra one, just saying. But yeah, good times.

02:08:26Yes.

02:08:27We survived a almost three hour long show.

02:08:31Indeed.

02:08:31Live.

02:08:32What will we do next time?

02:08:34Even we don't know, but we'll find out.

02:08:37See you next time.

02:08:39Rock on.

02:08:39Rock on.

02:08:40Peace.

02:08:40Bye.