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There's a podcast that's sure all that rocks hard is gold. And they're climbing the stairway to 11. When they get to there they know the record stores are all closed. But online they can get what they came for.

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Oh, and they're streaming the Stairway to 11.

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Hello, and welcome to Stairway to 11. My name is George.

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This is John.

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And I'm TR.

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And we've been gone for a little while now, so we're going to have to kick the tires,

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knock off all the rust, and see what we've got under the hood today.

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But welcome back, lads.

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Hello, hello. Yes. Hello. It's good to be back. So this time, sorry. Oh, I was just saying, we've just been a little busy. That's all. Yeah. It's like our summer break. Yeah. In the fall. Well, not quite yet. Not quite. Yeah. All right. So this time we are doing deep cuts and or songs that didn't get their due. So.

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We ready. Let's do it. Yes. All right. I hear John wants to go first. Yeah. Well, because I'm the one who suggested this, and I'm a fan of unreleased material, deep cuts, still to this day, fuming that SiriusXM got rid of deep cuts on the regular channels, but Earl Bailey is one of the people on there, because everyone, but he especially, would pay just all these cool songs. I mean, he used to play

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the porcupine tree all the time on there. And usually it's just like old, old fart hobbit frog that he would play. Yeah. And he was playing like, you know, rejuvenated old fart frog, you know, which I was happy about. So I've always been a fan of this, but there's one band in particular that kind of was the impetus for me wanting to do this because I just listened to this song a couple of days before.

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We did our last episode when I pitched this to the guys. So that's why I wanted to go first, because I feel like we've been cheated that this song is not on an album, and it still pisses me off to this day. And we'll probably never get it on an album. I don't know why. I don't know if it's band-related, management-related, or label-related. I'm sure TR can figure out the band I'm talking about. This band is one of the most prolific bands before they even released an album.

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So my first pick is an unreleased song. There are a few demo versions of it out there. It should have been on their second album. I'm still mad. My first pick is Van Halen's It's either We Die Young or Die Young. This is a song, there are umpteen numbers of demos out there of unreleased Van Halen music.

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They could have made albums after Fair Warning. Because they started to deviate. And they used a little bit of the material in the next two albums. But they could have even done more full-length albums. And this was one of those songs that saw a number of different iterations. I don't know if this was on the Zero demo. I can't remember. With Gene Simmons. I don't know. Actually, I don't think it was. On the Van Halen Zero.

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I don't think it was. But Ted Templeton, I think, is the one who has... They did a few recordings with him, I believe. Yes. And I gotta tell you, You're No Good as an opening track is about as horrible as it gets. The only other song, and George will appreciate this, that could be just as bad as an opening track and a cover song, Mexican Radio by Celtic Frost. Really? All the great songs they had. So I always felt...

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Radio. Don't get me wrong. It's Kilted Frost doing Mexican Radio, which is kind of a cool tune. Just don't open up an album with a cover song. Yeah. So if you don't know this song, it's like I said, it's either We Die Young or Die Young. There's debate over which it is. Criminally unknown. It's unrecognized. It's unreleased. It's from their demo days, their backyard party days, which they would play these mass. You know, we hear these stories about how Twisted Sister plays incredible shows at the Palladium, which they were. 3,000 people before they even,

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had a record deal. They were selling out huge places. Van Halen was doing that with backyard parties. Thousands of people were showing up to these crazy parties they would have in Southern California. So there's only one known live recording of this, and that's the infamous or famous Golden West Ballroom in Norwalk, California show from May 26, 1976. I've listened to that demo, or that live show, and it's insane.

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for the first time, like early versions of I'm on Fire, or On Fire, I'm the One, which back then was called Show Your Love, Out of Space, which was back then called Let's Get Rockin', Ice Cream Man, which I could give or take, that's I guess Dave's big moment. Hang Em High was at that show, but they called it last night. Hang Em High didn't show up until Diver Down.

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Yeah.

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Somebody Get Me a Doctor, She's the Woman. I mean, it just, it was an insane show of Van Halen songs that hadn't even, that don't make it till,

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later on. After the first album. Killer, hard, guitar-driven song. Might not be their best written song, but it just has something about it that says it's screaming it should be on an album. Yeah. And it's kind of like House of Pain, which was supposed to be on the first album, should have been on the second album. It got shelved all the way to 1984. So anyway, that's my first pick.

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to come up with this. This is a song that most people don't even know exists. And it should be on this massive giant box set of stuff that... That's sitting in the can. It's already been mixed and everything. Who's their label? Was it Warner Brothers at the time? Yeah. Now, I don't know... Who owns them now? I don't know who owns Warner Brothers, but... Yeah. You know, it's... I don't know that they recorded this with Ted Templeman.

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1977 is the version that i'm referencing here they did yeah yeah i think ted i think he says die young

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okay and before the song starts so that's why there's debate is it we die young or die yeah right

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because he used to talk before all their songs they have all those audio recordings where he's

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talking before the song starts okay they're notorious so he was like joe barisi before joe barisi but he left

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the talking in.

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You know how Joe Barisi left all the end parts of the songs.

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Right.

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On Diver Down.

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Not Diver Down, excuse me, Holy Diver.

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Yeah.

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So.

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Get your divers right.

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Yeah.

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It's a diver down.

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Holy Down Diver.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Nice pick.

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That is an awesome song.

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And deep.

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You know.

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It's so deep.

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It's never even.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. You know what? For the people that know that song, they're all going, because honestly, that's a killer tune. And there's actually so many more that never got seen in the light of day. Or when you hear them and you hear what they became on the, what is it, different kind of truth when they kind of redid a bunch of those old demos.

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Some of them are good, some are bad. I thought. Yeah. Some like, I mean, there were some where the like for most of them, they changed the lyrics. And I mean, the music was kind of the same, but they changed the lyrics. And I get it. Like, you know, Dave's a different person. It was a different person in 2011 and 2012 when that was stuff was coming out than he was in 1976 or whatever, you know, when when they originally wrote some of this stuff. But I don't know.

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There's something about the raw power of those original demos that you just cannot replace or you can't. To do anything to those later completely undermines just the pure raw power of what Van Halen was at that time. For those that have heard this song, now it's awesome because now we live in a time where you can find pretty much anything

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anything on YouTube. I remember, you know, when we were growing up, there were like vinyl, you know, bootlegs that you had no idea if they were any good. You know, a lot of them were real crap. And so it's like, you know, you really wouldn't have had the chance to hear a lot of this stuff. Now it's everything's out there. You can just go check it out or, you know.

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And people are using AI to clean stuff up. George, I imagine what we're talking about, because I'm sure you were involved in the tape trading for the thrash tape trading back when you were cutting your teeth. And I'm sure a lot of those recordings sucked, but you didn't care. You're like, you got some good tunes, you know, and then eventually the good stuff started coming out and then record labels, record deals, and then you actually got albums.

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Yeah, absolutely. And that was tapes, which was a hell of a lot easier to do. But these vinyl bootlegs, man, they were horrible. They sounded like crap. And they were replicated constantly. So every time they cut it, it just got worse and worse. You get further and further from the source. Just like a tape, same thing. Yeah. Anyway, that's my first pick. That's what spurred this whole thing. Wow. And I go back and I listen to these demos all the time.

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Now I feel like I didn't go deep enough. Well, trust me. Because that's deep, dude. That's my deepest one. Okay, all right. Because most of this is pretty straightforward. Don't worry, mine is too. I'm really just skimming across the surface of the water. I mean, it's not like we're doing the Grateful Dead or Fish or anything where they've got umpteen amounts of things that were only played live one time somewhere that became Signature and then maybe the

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and brought it back years later or whatever. Not like that. Not like that. But this is, I knew this one would be pretty deep, so I wanted to go on the deep end first and then drag myself to the shallow end. Well done. Thank you. TR, what you got? All right, well, I'm going to start with the Scorpions. And this song is, Is There Anybody There?

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an upbeat slash good feeling slash party slash island slash reggae style that is really unlike anything else on the record. It's melodic and catchy and was the second single released from the album, but it usually takes a backseat to the other hits. They played it live and it appears on 1995's Live Bites, but I feel this is a song that sometimes gets overlooked. I have overlooked this song.

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I feel like it's a really good song off of Love Drive, but it was like almost too chill and fun. Like, you know, you've got these other kind of hard driving songs on that album, like Can't Get Enough and Another Piece of Meat, which are really kind of like, you know, hard driving tunes. And this is just kind of like this fun, even though it's kind of like in a minor key, it still has this.

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A minor key?

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A Klaus Meineke? Wait a minute. Meineke? Is this a muffler shop all of a sudden? If you need a muffler, call Klaus. That's right. I take care of you. But it ended up like, I don't know, it just, I like this song a lot. And well, this is kind of deep, TR, and I'll tell you why. Love Drive isn't exactly loaded with hits. Well, that's true. So you're even digging deeper in the woods on an album.

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and maybe has one or two songs that stand out to regular fans, not even to casuals. Casuals would be like, Love Drive, what's that? Love Drive on wheels of fire. See, look at George. He knows. No, no, I know. For fans of Scorpions, they know that. So this is deeper than you think. Well, okay, maybe so. I forget because I just love everything that they've done. I know. You're a huge Scorpions fan. For the average Scorpions fan on the radio, they wouldn't have to do that.

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I don't have any clue. They're like, well, there's a album called that? I thought it only started with Blackout. Wait, where's the bubble gum is where? They centered themselves. Yeah. So anyway, that's my first pick. Nice. I like it. All right. So this song, if you're a fan of this band, you probably, you almost certainly have heard of the song, but this song is a song.

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This song is actually hated by the band as the song that they hate the most from their catalog. And it just happens to be like my favorite song of theirs. Released in the mid-80s, this is Metallica's Escape from Ride the Lightning. It's a great song. It's such a good song. It really is. And you know, it wasn't as thrashy as the rest of the stuff, and so they felt like it was a sellout and they hate it. And it was only a couple years ago, I guess, that they actually played it live for the first time.

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But in the mid-80s, freaking rebellious teenager, these lyrics, the chorus, out for my own, out to be free, one with my mind, they just can't see, no need to hear the things that they say, life is for my own, to live my own way. You can't get more rebellious than that in 1980.

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Five? Say it, four? Four?

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84.

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Five.

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Yeah, 84, yeah.

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Two-year gap, yeah.

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Wow.

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to think that they thought they were selling out.

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And just a few years later, give me fuel, give me fire, give me that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But then when it goes into the, like, it goes way down low and it goes to the, see them try to.

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Yeah.

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He's like, yeah.

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Bring that down low.

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Yeah.

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And then it's just like, you know, it almost goes into that, like, you know, die by my hand kind of, you know, you can't see me rocking back.

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Yeah, he's rocking back. But for those that aren't here that can see what's going on, George is rocking back and forth pretty hard. That's the most exercise I've had all day. You better take a cool down lap. Shame on Metallica for trashing that song. I know, it's so good. You don't trash any song off the first four albums. No. That's a good one. That's a good one. Okay. Back to you, John. This is good.

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I'm enjoying this. This is cool. I have good ideas. Trust me. Whether they're executed well is a whole different story. Well, yeah, this remains to be seen. All right. Now this one. The episode just started. This one, everybody knows this band if you're into hard rock. And this song is known by a lot of fans. However, this song is not considered one of the band's best songs. And it should be. It's a top 10 song in our catalog.

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I don't care what anybody says. No one can convince me otherwise. And when you hear it, you're going to be like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. This is about as close to metal as this band got in their career. And this song is kind of proggy. So right off the bat, you know, slightly nerdish, but it's heavy. And it's kind of one of those proto-prog metal songs. And it's not Rush. And I see you guys looking. It's not Rainbow. Pretty good guesses.

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I'm going with Led Zeppelin. And the song is Achilles' Last Sting. See, that's what happens. You get a record scratch because this song is criminally underrated by Led Zeppelin fans. Most, not all. The hardcore fans know how good this song is. Every fan should consider this a top 10 song from them. It is powerful.

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One of their longest songs, and it's just clocking in at like 10 and a half. It just brings... Remember that expression? Where's the beef? When we were kids. This song is all beef. This is, yeah, nothing but beef. Beef with boulders following. Yeah. You cannot have it the way you want it. You're just gonna get slapped in the big thing of beef. You're gonna get a slab of beef right here on your head. Bam. Yeah. It's off the album Presence. It came out in 1976. The album didn't get

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It's not much press. So as a matter of fact, a lot of people didn't even know it was released a day it came out until they're at the record store. What's this? There was like a black obelisk on the front and it was like, what the hell? And I don't think the album even said it even had Led Zeppelin's name on it. Nothing. So I honestly think it's a hugely influential song for a lot of the bands that we end up liking years later. And it's, while not forgotten, I think it gets forgotten on top lists.

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It should be a much bigger song. And I think Presence is criminally underrated as an album, to be honest with you. Totally agree. It's not their best, but it's a much better album that people give credit for. And it's an album where I believe, I have a quote here, Jimmy Page called it his favorite from Led Zeppelin. It considers its guitar solo on par with Stairway to Heaven, which is saying something, because that's probably his most iconic guitar solo, I think. I think most people could argue that point. Yeah.

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able to throw in there with it.

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And I guess recently, why I thought of this song is because Robert Plant,

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just in Mojo Magazine, say most people have missed some of the best Led Zeppelin stuff.

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And he pointed out tracks like For Your Life, which I think is awesome,

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which is the second song on Presence, and Achilles Last Stand.

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Yes.

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So they just never got a chance to play those songs much because John Bonham died a few years later.

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But if you know it or don't know it, and you don't consider it in high regard, you might go back, give it another spin, and see if that changes your mind. Sweet. Yeah. Dude, I'm all about that song. I love that. Good choice. That album's got some heavy tunes on it. All right. Well, so my next choice is actually a twofer. And it is...

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John Arch, Twist of Fate, which is his EP. And these two songs, each over 12 minutes, were the first recordings of John Arch since he left Fate's Warning in 1987. He's joined by Fate's alums, Jim Matheus and Joey Vera, as well as Mike Portnoy on drums. I think these songs may forever live in limbo. When John Arch returned with Arch Matheus in 2011 and actually played live, the focus was on the

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the Sympathetic Resonance album and his Face Warning catalog.

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It's a shame because these songs are every bit as good as the Archmotheos material.

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And so I don't know that we'll ever hear these live.

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I mean, you know, I don't even know if they'll ever play live again.

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They didn't tour on the second Archmotheos album.

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They didn't really even tour on the first one.

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They just played a couple of live shows.

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So I saw them live.

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Well, yeah, we saw them.

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But what I'm saying is that it's not like they had an extended tour and they had a bunch of set lists where they played a bunch of material. And it's kind of a shame because these songs... Part of it's because the songs are kind of long. It's hard to squeeze them in when they're all... You're playing other long songs from Arch My Thales. Exactly, right. And any Fates Warning stuff that they want to play and people want to hear because they haven't heard it since 1987.

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It's a shame that these songs will probably remain unplayed in terms of live performances. I honestly don't remember when this came out. I know it came out in 2003, but I don't remember. It came out to very little fanfare, even though this was his first studio recording in years.

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And it's it basically sounds like Arch Matheus because it's Jim Matheus playing the guitars on it.

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For all intents and purposes, it really is a Arch Matheus EP because it was released with Sympathetic Resonance as the back last side of the vinyl.

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Because I think I turned Jay on to that, Jay, who was here for Elvis, who's been on his podcast.

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It actually I think was sold with the vinyl originally to give it a two vinyl set. Oh, okay. Yeah. Didn't realize that. It's impossible to find them. I remember when this came out because I got the promo back on CD. I missed those days so much actually. Yeah. They would actually send you CDs. It wouldn't be a case. It'd just be the artwork and the CD and a little plastic sleeve. Yeah.

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Or a little,

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I used to get the cardboard sleeves from inside out music.

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Yeah.

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Summer cardboard too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh man.

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I,

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I agree a hundred percent on this tear.

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It's forgotten.

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And like I said,

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for all intents and purposes,

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it might as well just be an Archmothios EP.

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It's under John Rich's name.

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Kind of should have been,

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but you know,

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they didn't think to call it that at the time.

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And right.

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I don't know.

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It's just,

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it's a shame.

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Cause they,

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they're just,

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they're lost.

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Like they're,

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you know,

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they're not going to go back and play this probably.

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No.

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And so you'll never hear it live

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And I don't know, it just seems like a shame

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Because like I said, they're every bit as good

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As the Arch Matheus material

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That came out in 2011

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And then the album after that

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So I don't know

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It's kind of a shame

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Because I think

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It's great material, he sounds good

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It was kind of the first time

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That he was kind of coming back

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And I think

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I'm sure people were astounded

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because, you know, he hadn't really been on any kind of a recording for decades. And he comes back with this, and he sounds great. The songs are, you know, kind of driving, but then there's some mellow parts. And it just, I don't know, it just, I thought it was great. It is. It's, well, all the, all, like, again, actually, to tell you how much I consider Archmeteos, I have it actually on my, in all my, online, on my laptop.

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I use Music B for all my music. It's listed just as Arch Matheus. It's just easier to keep it all together. That's actually a good idea. I should have probably done that. It falls under that category. I think Matheus actually wrote some of the material on the album. If it was all John Arch, I'd be like, oh, it's John Arch. But I thought he wrote some. I could be wrong. You forgot one other person on the album. Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater plays drums. I mentioned that. You did. Oh, I didn't hear you say that. I heard you say Joey Vera. Yeah, no, I did.

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I mentioned Mike Portnoy. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, and he does a very, very good job. And obviously, you know, he had worked with Matthäus on OSI. And so, you know, there was and and I guess John Arch had tried out for Dream Theater at one point. So, I mean, there's definitely connections between all those guys. Oh, Kevin Moore played on Perfect Cemetery. Yeah, it came out in 1989. So he actually Dream Theater's first album came out.

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They were already friends before that.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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There you go.

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Yeah, it was very nice.

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Yeah.

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EP, two songs, 27 minutes.

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Yeah.

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Awesome.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Almost hit the Slayer boundary.

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All right.

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Me again?

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Yeah, you again.

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All right.

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This is a band people may have heard of.

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Unfortunately, this band isn't around anymore. Because Ozzy Osbourne just died. We haven't covered that yet. God, it's been almost a month and a half now since we lost Ozzy. So, obviously, this is Black Sabbath from Master of Reality. My favorite song, Solitude, which if you know it, you know it. But if you don't, you ought to know it.

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It's such a beautiful song. It's sad and depressing. It's metal. It's Black Sabbath. What do you want? The first time I heard this song, I had to just be like, what was that? I mean, it's on Master Reality. It's got some pretty rocking stuff on there. I know they do Planet Caravan too. I don't remember which album that was on. I'm not actually a big fan of Planet Caravan. Is that the second album? I don't know.

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I think so.

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So if I have to go with

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a melodic

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pretty Sabbath song, I go

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with Solitude.

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I don't go with Changes. I go Solitude.

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Yeah. You know that song

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has been covered so many times.

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Changes or Solitude?

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Solitude.

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Candlemas has covered it.

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Yeah.

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I think Opeth has covered it,

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I believe.

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When did Candlemas do it?

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Oh, God.

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I thought I did. Because I know they have a song called Solitude, but it's not this. Am I thinking of that? Am I getting confused? I might be confused by that. Yeah, Candlemas is like, something, something, Solitude. Okay, I stand corrected. I know Green Carnation covered it. Yeah. Because it's more of a proggy kind of song, honestly. So Green Carnation makes sense. Yeah. Sorry. I do make mistakes.

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Most of the time. What? It's all right. Usually it's me. No. Now I get to stand back and point and go, ha ha. We don't want to do that because we don't want me pointing out all your mistakes. Right. There's so many. I mean, we'd be here all night. I am one big mistake. But yeah. Let's not get started on that. It's one of my favorite Black Sabbath songs. One of my favorite songs all time. And just not enough people know this song.

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That's a classic example of an album that has two mega songs on it for a band. I mean, how many people know After Forever from that album? Not enough. That song's awesome. Not enough. Exactly. All they know is Sweet Leaf. You know, and then they know Children of the Grave. Yeah. That rest of the album's awesome. Okay, maybe Embryo's a little grating on the ears. I get it.

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But Lord of this world, that's awesome. But I think more people know that one, too. Yeah. But still, that's a good pick. Thank you. Even if Candlemas didn't cover it. They didn't. Hey, maybe they... Well, you never know. I mean, it would make sense if they did, but... Now I need to call them. Yeah. Tell them they better go do it. We need you to cover this song, and then when you play live, play your Solitude, followed by Solitude by Black Sabbath.

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Ooh, I like it. A double shot of solitude. Solitudes. Yeah. Solitude squared. Yes. All right. Back to John. All right. So we've mentioned some big names. Zeppelin being big and Metallica being big. Now I'm going to mention a name just as big, if not bigger. In my opinion, doesn't mean that he was, but I think he was. And this guy had a

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Boatload.

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He could compete with Van Halen for unreleased material or bonus tracks or extra tracks that got released on albums.

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And this song that I selected from him is the second version of this song that came out.

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Because the original version was much slower and, quite frankly, quite boring.

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This version that came out just a year, maybe.

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Yeah, I guess a year later.

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And then subsequently started seeing tons of releases, whether it be on box sets, bonuses on reissued discs, singles at the time, the backside of singles, or they would release songs as the backside of a single. Then they released that song later on as an actual single with a different B side. It's crazy what they did in the seventies. But I feel like this song should be no more because it's got glam rock written all over it. At least this version.

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does. And that's David Bowie's Holy Holy. Knew it was Bowie. Yeah. Yeah. It's a song called Holy Holy that was originally released in 1970. And it's kind of like, it's okay. And then he released a glammed out version of it. That's perfect for the Ziggy Stardust Aladdin Sane period. I think it's a freaking awesome song. And I really feel like this song should be known by a lot more people. I first heard it when the Ryko discs were issued.

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in the, I want to say late 80s, early 90s. I could be wrong about it. Maybe it was the 80s because I saw him in 90 and he was doing Sound and Vision. This is all part of the whole Sound and Vision era when he was releasing everything, re-releasing stuff. And this was, I believe, on The Man Who Sold the World originally, which is when the period was originally recorded. But then it also showed up on the Ziggy Stardust, like whatever, anniversary.

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And it just kept showing up all over the place, box sets and all that stuff that came out. But it's a cool tune. And it's only two minutes and 20 seconds, but it just screams glam. And it really should have been a bigger song. But I mean, where do you put it on some of these albums at that point, you know? Yeah. So, I mean, you couldn't fit it anywhere. And at that time, something two years old is like yesterday's news because they've moved on and done,

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two more albums and released a live album and did five tours around the world and they're coked out and they just needed a couple hours sleep you know yeah so that's another song that kind of drove this for me it was this song from bowie like the song from van halen right on wow okay all right what do you got next tr all right so this song is the judas priest song

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And I think John's gonna know what this is. Because it is The Last Rose of Summer. And it's a track from 1977's Sin After Sin. And it's an example of the light and shade of early Priest. Has a very chill 70s sound and Halford's vocals are brilliant. The more metal they got, the less you heard songs like this, which is kind of unfortunate. But thankfully, Michael

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Michael Okerfeld of Opeth keeps this song alive at occasional Opeth songs where he plays a few bars and says, you guys don't know what song this is. It's Judas Priest. It's Last Rose of Summer. So thankfully he's keeping it alive. I love this song. I don't think it's very well known even by Judas Priest fans. Sin After Sin is an awesome album.

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But this song, it kind of harkens back to their first couple of albums. And it has that same kind of... Some of the early priests kind of has this very 70s kind of chilled out. It's before they got real metal and really were pounding. And I just love that kind of sound. And they kind of got away from it the further...

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of found their identity as a metal band. And once like Stain Class hit and, you know, they started really, you know, putting the leather and everything on, they kind of abandoned this kind of a sound. And while they did play ballads and other things later on, and you had like songs like Beyond the Realms of Death, you never really got a song like this anymore. And it's really unfortunate because I really, I love this song.

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a lot and so anyway last rose of summer judas priest sin after sin nice yeah it's a cool tune

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definitely uh it's more like the first time i think then yeah sad wings of destiny and it comes at a time when

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they didn't know what they wanted to be because that album also has dissonant aggressor on it which is

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So killer, dude.

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Like that just hits you on the head.

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Like from the word go, like boom.

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But you know what's funny about that song?

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Just real quick.

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When I saw them on, I can't think of the tour.

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I think it was when they, was it Metal Masters?

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Like 2018?

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No, when they toured with Heaven and Hell.

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And was it Testament and Motorhead, I think?

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Yeah, yeah.

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the tour. I think. Did they play that live then? Yeah. I saw it on that tour. Okay. Yeah. Because they played just like songs like Eat Me Alive, which I never thought I'd ever see live. I actually was singing. I was like, people are like, this song's weird. I'm like, Eat Me Alive. When this song started, and I was in Star Lake in Pittsburgh with my friend Lisa and her then guys she was singing, we were all the way in the back at the top.

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But Star League's not as big as a place down by us, like Jiffy Lube or whatever they call it now. Esau, whatever the place used to be called. And you know how it starts to do, do, do, do, do, do. It's that slow kind of thing. It's just building and it's quiet. And no one knows what's going on and people are talking. And I let out this scream. And I leaned back and I had the arms all the way out and everything. And I just screamed. And my friend Lisa looked at me and said, what the fuck? Like that to me. And I just screamed out. Did you scream in E minor?

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Because it's like,

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did you scream like Klaus Minor?

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Yeah.

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No.

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Is that the Meineke guy?

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Yeah, I think so.

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And it just,

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yeah, I just let out a bellow,

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and I just screamed out,

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dissident aggressor.

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And people are looking at me like,

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nobody knew this song.

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How do you not know this song?

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Are you Slayer fans, at least?

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Wow.

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And it just,

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it just slayed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that is one of the best songs on the album.

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So I think that,

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the song that you picked here to get back to that point. It's on an album where

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I don't know if they knew what they wanted

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at that point because there's that. Then there's

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Starbreaker, which is

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heavy, but it's slower, a little more

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of a groove to it and everything.

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Obviously, Center and

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Call the Priest and

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all that stuff. Right. They were still searching

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for that. Still trying to figure it out.

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Yeah. And it's kind of

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falls by the wayside on there.

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What else? Raw deal.

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Yeah. So anyway, good pick. That's a good one. See, even big name bands have super deep cuts. Yes. All right. Well, I'm going to go with another band you might have heard of with a singer you might have heard of. This is an album from 1985. I tend to champion this album quite a bit. You know, and there's some songs on there you've heard of like Hungry for Heaven or Rock and Roll Children.

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The Title Track, Sacred Heart from Ronnie James Dio. Saw it coming. King of Rock and Roll. It's a good album. It's a great album. And there's a number of songs that get some airplay in. I thought about doing the beat of a heart because that's just a banger. But for me, a song I always come back to is the last one on the album called Shoot Shoot.

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controversial because of the title and the references to Gunner or whatever. But I don't care. It's just a killer song. And, oh, killer. That was a pun. And I love that track. I mean, I love that album. And this is a track that just finishes off the album well. So. I have not listened to that album enough. I haven't. I just haven't spent much time with it at all.

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I know you always mention it and I'm like I gotta go back and listen and I always forget

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there you go not on purpose it's just no and yeah well that's the you know so that's a good point

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because honestly like unfortunately there are so many great deal albums and I typically will reach for the first two or three before I get to that one you know what I mean just another day well if you're reaching for the third album you'll be reaching for this well I would

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I'd be reaching for this. Falling angel. I guess, yeah, I know. I gotta, I gotta. Isn't that the one with the big dragon on it? Yep. Yes. Yep. I've got a giant poster of it framed in my office. As well you should, George. As well I should. Yes. That's what we need to do on one of the podcasts. You're gonna like my next pick, George. Sweet.

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from D.O. off of them. Not quite. We need to do that on one of the two podcasts, George. We need to do a top ten albums from the 80s. Because we all grew up in the 80s. Marcus on... Yeah. Matt still might have been a baby. Bebe Matt. Bebe Matt. Bebe Matt. But he wasn't fully bitchy yet. He hasn't bitched out just yet.

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Matt. Burpee Matt. Burpee Matt. He didn't know about whales yet. No. For anyone who knows anything about Matt. Yeah. All right. I'll get a little more obscure from here. A little. Not quite so, you know, greatest of all time. That's a pretty deep cut, though. Yeah, it is. Yeah. All right. My fourth one. C. Hey, we've mentioned Black Sabbath.

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We've mentioned Dio. Come on. We gotta hit the trinity here from the Black Sabbath family. My next pick, and I know Jay's gonna love this pick if he's listening to this, because I think not only is this song massively underrated, I think this whole album is massively underrated, and I think it's way better than the first album that came out that gets way more credit for two damn songs.

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Nonetheless, my next pick is Ozzy Osbourne. S-A-T-O, which is off of the album Diver of Madman. It's the second to last song. It bookends a little bit with, well, that's bookend, but it's tied in with the title track Diver of Madman. Originally named Strange Voyage. There are debates. What does it mean? Does it mean sail across the ocean? Because there's references to sailing in it. Does it mean Sharon Arden, which was,

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or Adrian whatever for Sharon Osbourne originally. No, there's something about her boyfriend too at the time. It could have been that. It could have been Sharon or Adrian or Sharon Arden, Thelma Osbourne. I don't know what the title is. I don't care. To me, it's S-A-T-O. Although I do like the Sail Across the Ocean bit because of some of the lyrics. This song is just frenetic. It's heavy. It's driving. To me, it's one of Randy Rhoads' best guitar solos. It's just a killer tune.

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This album was so grossly underrated, represented and underrated, because they hardly played any songs off this album live. I think they may have played only four songs off the album total, which is eight songs, but in one of them, I think they played just a few times. So they were only in rotation on the tour for this album, only play like Over the Mountain, Flying High Again, and Believer. This should have been in a set list. It's a killer tune.

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If you don't know it, go back and listen to it. And the way it ends and goes right into Diary of a Madman is great. I'm not even saying that. I know Jay would agree with me on this. He loves this song too. The guitar solo is just, it's insane. I'd say about all his guitar solos, but this song just gets forgotten because everyone talks about Flying High again and then Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley. I keep hearing about Crazy Train and Mr. Crowley and I'm like, you know, there's Suicide Solution and I don't know on that album too.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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So.

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And that's a completely different album.

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But anyway.

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It's my number four.

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Righteous.

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Cool.

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Good.

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All right, George.

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This one's for you.

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Yay.

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Because this is a Dio song.

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Yay.

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And it would have been on Sacred Heart, but it didn't get on the album.

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And it's a song called Hide in the Rainbow.

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This track appeared on the Iron Eagle original motion picture soundtrack in 1986. It was recorded during the Sacred Heart sessions, and I'm not sure why it didn't go on the album. You could argue that Dio's obsession with rainbows had kind of run its course by this time, but it's still a cool song. I'm not aware of it ever being played live, which is a shame because Dio's vocals are totally killer on this song. It starts out with his vocal, you know, what's he

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say, the best steel goes through the fire.

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Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's an awesome song, and it should have been on Sacred Heart.

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I don't know why it didn't go on there.

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I don't know.

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But that was a tough time for Dio, and, you know, I guess he had split from Wendy at that point,

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And Vivian and the band had said he was kind of in a dark place at that point. And being in the studio was just miserable. And none of them wanted to be there. And I guess it was just really hard to make that album. And of course, Vivian got axed at that point. And I guess Craig Goldie came in. From what I've seen, people believe that Vivian played on this song.

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I don't know exactly who played on it, but most people think that it was Vivian and that it was done before he departed. Great song. Again, I don't know why it didn't show up on the album because it was a great, it's awesome. So anyway, that's my pick. It's pretty much a D.O. deep track. Excellent.

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That's two for Dio. Nice. All right. So for my next pick, I will mention a band that you may have heard of because I may have mentioned them on here before, but I bet you probably don't know the song. Came out in 1991. They're a band. I think they're from Georgia.

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And this was the self, not self-titled, the title track for the album Fly Me Courageous. And I bought this when it came out and I was all into this and they never really went anywhere. I think they had a few more albums, but you know, they never hit big. And then some point this past year, I heard it on the radio again and I was just like, yes! And so then I went and like, you know, picked up everything I could find,

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by them. They got some good stuff. I mean, it's hard rock. It's not even hard rock some of the time. But this is a pretty rocking song with a cool riff. So, yeah. Fly Me Courageous. I don't know this song. Yeah, I don't either. I mean, I've heard of that band, but I couldn't tell you one thing. What was their big hit? Fly Me Courageous. Oh, okay.

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It was the song that got played on the radio

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when it came out.

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I don't know.

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What was that their biggest hit?

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To my knowledge, yes.

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Let's go back to their

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discography.

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Well, let's see.

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Because I remember hearing

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that band's name, but

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I don't really remember

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What they were kind of known for? Well, they came out of the... I want to say the Athens. Are they from Athens? It says Atlanta. But they were kind of from the REM scene, but not that kind of music. Formed in 85. Blah, blah, blah. For genres, it says hard rocks.

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Southern Rock, Folk, Country Rock, Americana. So that kind of gets you in the ballpark. Yeah. I think you should check it out. Okay. Nice. John. All right. My fifth pick. So you've heard of the band. I don't think they're a super popular band, but they were at a time.

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really big. Despite having a super big, you know, 80s rewind or whatever you want to call those channels hit, it was huge. You know, a lot of air time on MTV and FM radio. But I don't think the band ever really was able to parlay it into big success in terms of venue size. But you know the band, certainly. And I picked this song because I saw them

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open for somebody else and the song blew me away and i was like who is this band

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and then i found out there from my hood and i was like oh i gotta get get me this album

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and i stand on this hill i die in this hill for the the debut so my next pick is night rangers

00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:59.680
play rough off of their debut album dawn patrol nice it's this they were a pretty heavy band on the

00:49:59.680 --> 00:50:06.440
first album and they started to kind of aor it out a lot more on the subsequent albums

00:50:07.500 --> 00:50:12.940
obviously sister christian is their big radio hit i mean they they did really well with that song

00:50:13.630 --> 00:50:18.720
but it never seemed to parlay for them into massive stadium not stadiums but you know always playing the 15

00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:26.760
20 000 arena you know where all the hockey and basketball games are but i always loved this song i always

00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:56.680
thought it was unknown on the album. Nobody talks about it. Cause on that album, everyone talks about, don't tell me you love me or sing me away or at night she sleeps. Those were fairly well-known songs, but I always thought this song was heavier. It's faster. I mean, it features Jeff Watson and Brad Gillis on guitar and they both just rip their solos. They're both completely different types of players and they're both just, they destroy their guitars. And it's just came out at a time when Brad Gillis got his, you know, bump from being with,

00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:25.940
He was the second guitarist to follow after Randy Rhodes died. I actually saw him play with Ozzy on the Diary of a Madman tour. But then I saw them open for Sammy Hagar in 1983 at the Cow Palace. And it was just, they blew me away. I was up front because it was General Mission back then. And I was like, wow. And I have, to this day, I still listen to this album all the time. It's one of the few that I listened to from that period. I kind of like how I feel about Zebra.

00:51:26.640 --> 00:51:56.600
I like more albums from Zebra. I feel that way about Night Rager's first two albums. Love them. Second album, not as much as the first, but... And then they just drop off. They go down the well for me from there. So yeah, I think it's a great tune. If you've never heard it, I would give it a spin. There's a live video out there where the song's actually longer than what's on the album. And it's like six minutes. It just rips. It really does. So I hate to keep using that word and be redundant, but it's just...

00:51:56.620 --> 00:52:25.480
So at least I think it is. Yeah, I have to admit, I haven't listened to that album a lot. And so I really need to go back and listen to that because I always thought they were a good band. I just I don't know why I didn't get into them or didn't listen to them very much. But if you're looking for the hard rock stuff, the first album is the way to go because it's a mix of hard rock AOR, real catchy, real catchy choruses from them. You know, two singers.

00:52:26.500 --> 00:52:56.460
Jack Blades and Kelly's Keegan or Keegan or whatever. I can't remember. Yeah, but yeah, because Jack Blades then went on to Damn Yankees with. He did that for a while. Yeah, right. And Tommy Shaw. Yeah. So which at the time was that was a pretty big super group. Yeah. And they would play Night Ranger songs because that was stuff from like they each played stuff. Yeah, exactly. Which was cool because then you got everything. Yeah. So but if you want to know if you if you want

00:52:56.500 --> 00:52:58.300
I can't listen to an album by them it's definitely

00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:00.620
Don Patrol their first album came out in 1982

00:53:01.010 --> 00:53:02.660
first two are awesome first two albums

00:53:02.690 --> 00:53:04.460
yeah and the second album is good too

00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.680
little more AR-ish definitely

00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:09.040
more radio friendly but it's got

00:53:09.130 --> 00:53:10.980
cool tunes on it rumors and is it

00:53:11.020 --> 00:53:12.540
rumors in the air rumors in the air

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rumors in the air and uh

00:53:14.640 --> 00:53:17.000
still rock in America yeah oh yeah

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and Sister Christian of course but

00:53:19.020 --> 00:53:20.960
which is the behemoth yeah in their

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catalog I mean

00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.200
rightfully so I could see why that

00:53:25.220 --> 00:53:55.000
That song would appeal to people. Rumors in the air. Yeah. It became more keyboard heavy, I think, on the second album. But, God, Jeff Watson tapping and then Brad Gill is shredding. Yeah. You can still rock on America. It's got some good rocking. It does. It lives up to the title. It does, yeah. Definitely those two albums. And they're still out there jamming. It's just three of the main guys. Three of them, not five. Yeah.

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Cool.

00:53:58.460 --> 00:53:59.340
I gotta go listen to that.

00:53:59.980 --> 00:54:00.160
Yeah.

00:54:00.640 --> 00:54:01.120
I love it.

00:54:01.120 --> 00:54:01.900
I listen to it all the time.

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All right.

00:54:05.220 --> 00:54:08.240
So my next pick is a Van Halen pick.

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Not as deep as John's pick.

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Which is super deep.

00:54:13.500 --> 00:54:16.280
But my pick is Girl Gone Bad.

00:54:17.200 --> 00:54:21.780
This song from Van Halen's 1984 album was the B-side on the I'll Wait single.

00:54:22.740 --> 00:54:24.480
It's the second to last track on the album.

00:54:24.600 --> 00:54:54.540
and often gets eclipsed by the hits. The song has such a cool vibe, especially the quiet break in the middle and the return to the intro harmonics. Ed and Al are front and center on this track, so locked in on the little guitar and drum run-ups. I love this tune. His solo on it kind of has a fair warning feeling. It's kind of an underrated song. I feel like this is such a cool song.

00:54:54.600 --> 00:55:18.920
It just has this cool vibe. It's kind of mysterious. Dave's kind of in the background. I like when Dave is who he is, but on this song, he gets kind of put in the background, and I'm okay with it. Nobody puts Dave in the background. I don't want to put Dave in the background most of the time. Don't put Baby in a corner.

00:55:24.620 --> 00:55:54.560
on this song, which was just, okay, you know, you set it up, you do some ooze, and you kind of make the, like the, I don't know, there's just an air of mystery to the song, and I just really like the vibe that it gives, and the way that they kind of, it's an unconventional song, because they start with this harmonic tapping stuff, it builds up, it builds up, and then, you know, there's like this chorus, and then it comes all the way back to this harmonic thing, and then there's a soul,

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It doesn't really fit the normal construct of a song.

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But I really love the fact that it doesn't fit a normal construct of a song.

00:56:04.100 --> 00:56:05.600
And there were some very...

00:56:06.700 --> 00:56:11.100
I don't want to call this progressive because I don't know that I would go that far.

00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:14.660
But what I would say is it's definitely unconventional.

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And I really feel like this tune needs more love and needs more people to know about it.

00:56:24.300 --> 00:56:25.820
because it's just a really cool tune.

00:56:26.540 --> 00:56:27.560
I'm going to tell you something right now.

00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:31.100
When you listen to that beginning of that song and it does that build up,

00:56:31.560 --> 00:56:36.960
you know, where he's on the ride and Alex is on a ride and Eddie's doing his thing and it builds up.

00:56:40.220 --> 00:56:42.060
That is so yes from the 70s.

00:56:42.200 --> 00:56:42.480
It's unreal.

00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:43.740
Yeah, well, it is.

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And it really is.

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It's funny, though, but like that's the thing.

00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:48.980
Ed and Al played off each other a lot.

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And, you know, Ed would do these little guitar parts that would match his brother's drum fills. So if you listen to a lot of that Van Halen stuff, he was doing, I don't know who was following who. Like, I don't know if Al was following Ed or Ed was following Al during those little drum parts and guitar parts. But, like, there aren't a lot of bands that do that. Or, like, it just, I don't know. They were so locked up.

00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:49.740
of muscle memory, I think too. I think, yeah. And I think those guys were so locked in because they, they played with no one else but themselves and, and each other. And, um, I just, I feel like that was their normal way of doing things. Like they just fed off each other. And when somebody would do something, they would, you know, they'd fill in like, just like what the other guy was doing. And I think that that's, uh, an element of Van Halen that I think it's overreacting.

00:57:49.780 --> 00:58:17.280
because there are so many little intricate parts that Ed and Al are doing together that don't really happen in most bands because these guys are brothers. They're looking at each other and they're pushing each other and they're doing stuff together that I don't think a lot of other bands or other guitarists and drummers will do simply because, I don't know, they didn't grow up together.

00:58:18.380 --> 00:58:21.720
I don't know. There's a closeness there and there's a certain kind of

00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:26.960
an element maybe of competition. I don't know. But there's just a really cool

00:58:27.520 --> 00:58:32.220
connection that happens between those two. And when you really listen closely to the Van Halen albums,

00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:43.860
you'll hear how Ed and Al are locked in and doing these really cool things together that you just don't hear on other bands and other records.

00:58:45.120 --> 00:59:15.000
Yeah, this is a great pick because when you think of this album, it has four of their biggest hits on it, of their whole career. You got Jump, Panama, Hop for Teacher, and I'll Wait. Those are massive, all huge radio play songs. You know what four songs I listen to on the album all the time? Top Jimmy, Drop Dead Legs, Girl Gone Bad, and House of Pain. I love all four of those songs more. I think this is one of the few albums where the hits are so far removed from the

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I'm not including the intro 1984. They're so far removed from the other four songs. People think, oh, those are just filler. No. No. They're all really good. They're actually better than the hits. I think they're all great songs. Yeah. And with House of Pain being the song from the mid to late 70s originally. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, I love that. I mean, I'll skip all those other songs. I'll do the top Jimmy, you know, because it's got

00:59:45.040 --> 01:00:14.800
this kind of... It swings. It does. That's a good way to put it. It really does. It swings. And then Drop Dead Legs has got that... Almost becomes more of a... It's like Hagar era. Drop Dead Legs. It fits more actually in the Hagar era than it does actually in the Van Halen era. Uh-oh, is that a hot take? Uh-oh. I want to do that episode. And then Girl Gone Bad and House of Pain are just... Yeah, that's a great pick.

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I love it. Now I have to go back and list those four songs and say, why don't you just jump to Panama with your Hofford teacher? I'm not going to wait. You know, so that's really bad. Yeah. Yeah. What's that guy's problem? So. All right. Back to me again, I think, because that was TR. That was TR. All right. So now you're messing with a son of a bitch. Here we go. I know what this is.

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This band, I know you guys know it, and probably most rock music aficionados know this band as well. They're called Nazareth, and the album is called Hair of the Dog, but the song is Miss Misery. Nice. I don't know if you know the song, but this is a heavy song. The whole album is.

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That is such a heavy song. And the riff. Lyrically, it's just a song about a dude that there's a woman that plagues him, apparently. She's Miss Misery. But, dude, the vocals lock in with the guitars and the chorus. You're Miss Misery. That's all you'll ever be. It's just banging.

01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:48.800
I gotta go back and revisit that album I know so do I

01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:57.260
yeah they could get pretty heavy yeah but oh so uh and I know this album's got some

01:01:57.500 --> 01:02:14.140
controversy around the fact that there's different versions of the album and some songs are on it some aren't like love hurts is on there sometimes um and of course hair is that is that one of those deals where they the original release would be in the UK and then when it got released in the States they would add hits to

01:02:14.140 --> 01:02:17.100
to give it more of a push because it wasn't as known in the States.

01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.580
Yeah, I think so. I think Love Hurts was added for the U.S., but it wasn't in Canada, U.K., and stuff like that.

01:02:23.660 --> 01:02:36.480
Yeah, which is funny because I don't know if Canada was any more further ahead than the U.S. in recognizing it, but I'm guessing because of the British ground connection, loose connection. I don't know.

01:02:37.180 --> 01:02:39.900
Yeah. TR, are you familiar with this song at all?

01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:42.120
I have to admit I'm not.

01:02:42.860 --> 01:02:43.900
So it's deep.

01:02:43.960 --> 01:03:13.840
So you're saying it's deep. Yeah, it is. For me, I have to admit, I just know their hits. I really never got into Nazareth, so I feel like I need to kind of do some homework there. Yeah. They're heavy. Early. You know the song, John. Yes. Okay. And let's all be honest. Come on. We've all done Hair of the Dog once in our life. Maybe twice. Potentially three times. Well, and we've had Hair of the Dog beer.

01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:42.960
Yeah. Many times. And let me tell you, the hair of the dog works. I don't care what anyone says. You're hurting, drink a beer. You're like, yeah. Gotta tell you, I don't feel great, but I feel better, if that makes sense. It does. I think I did that last decibel. Yeah. Yes, potentially that may have happened. Yeah. I was hurting and then I got the old hair of the dog. Wasn't hurting anymore. Wasn't hurting quite so much. Yeah.

01:03:43.120 --> 01:04:13.000
Then I decided to go to Monk's and have eight Pliny's. Hair of the Monk. And then I was drunk again. I was too drunk to realize I had a hangover. George, I think you just described what the next luncheon's going to be called. Hair of the Monk. I like it. Hair of the Monk. Which is ironic. Now you're messing with a son of a monk. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What happened?

01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:43.060
there. He just happened to step out one day. Yeah, well. Anyway, it happens. Okay. That's how we got the hair of the dog. Yeah. Anyway. All right. So that's five apiece, but I can keep going. Yeah, we can keep going. We've got a handful of honorable mentions here. We could do them as honorables if you want. Then we can talk about our other little subject we have. It's up to you guys. Whatever you want to do. You want to just each person bang them out or you want to go run robin until we run out of stuff? That's fine.

01:04:43.100 --> 01:05:12.920
It might be easier doing that. Sure. Yeah, it's fine. Okay. All right. So let's go back to the whole, because we seem to hit the Black Sabbath, Aussie Dio train. Let's go back. Okay. I'm going to go to the album Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath, which if you're a Sabbath fan, you know that song. Now, if you're a Prague Sabbath fan, then you also know Spiral Architect. But then it seems like the rest of the album kind of gets forgotten. It's hands down my favorite Sabbath album by a bazillion miles. But the second track,

01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:42.280
A National Acrobat, I think, is just outstanding. And it's somewhat doomy for them at that point when they started going just pretty much early, you know, that early heavy metal prototype that was starting to develop with them and Priest and a few other bands. I think it's a great tune. I think it gets criminally overlooked. Right? This song is known. I feel like it should still be bigger.

01:05:42.420 --> 01:06:11.720
It is known. Because everyone knows the other hit off of this song. You guys have heard that song called Time of the Season, have you not, from the 60s? The Zombies, yeah. You've heard of that? Can you name another song on the album? She's Not There. That's on the album before that. Oh, damn. That's a good guess, George. I didn't have anything. The Oracle something or other. Yeah, this album Oracle,

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:41.100
Odyssey and Oracle from 1968 is one of the great rock albums of all time. Obviously, Time of the Season is a great song. But the opening track, Care of Self 44, is unreal how good it is. The harmonies and the melody and everything. And I know people know it, but I feel like this song should be played on the radio all the time. Like every time I turn on the radio, it's like Time of the Season songs. It's like, oh man, again, is it that time of the season? It is. It was that time of the season four hours ago.

01:06:42.420 --> 01:06:43.600
Seasons Change.

01:06:44.490 --> 01:06:44.600
Exactly.

01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:47.400
Anyway, all right, moving on real quick.

01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:50.340
I'll stand on this hill, I will die on this hill.

01:06:50.660 --> 01:06:52.460
Especially if Bruce is singing this song.

01:06:52.720 --> 01:06:52.920
Oh.

01:06:54.660 --> 01:06:56.220
It was featured on the Rock in Rio.

01:06:58.240 --> 01:07:00.660
I feel like more Maiden fans should appreciate this song.

01:07:00.740 --> 01:07:02.060
This is more of an appreciation.

01:07:02.340 --> 01:07:02.900
Fans know it.

01:07:03.070 --> 01:07:05.320
They won't listen to it because it came off a Blaze album.

01:07:05.860 --> 01:07:06.220
Mm-hmm.

01:07:06.620 --> 01:07:08.060
Iron Maiden's The Klansman.

01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:08.580
Yeah.

01:07:08.660 --> 01:07:10.160
I think that song is awesome.

01:07:10.250 --> 01:07:11.800
I think everyone should sing that song.

01:07:11.860 --> 01:07:41.720
They're singing everything else. They're singing all the new crap. Why can't they sing this old crap? Sing the old crap. Yeah. All right. We haven't talked about Rush. Now we're going to talk about Rush. Oh, okay. I feel like this song gets ignored. I feel like people pigeonhole this song into the synth era of Rush. Oh, I thought you were going to go with I think I'm going bald, but okay. That's a deep cut. It's deep. I mean,

01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:43.800
Propecia Commercials.

01:07:44.220 --> 01:07:45.560
Yeah, they should take that up.

01:07:45.680 --> 01:07:45.840
Yeah.

01:07:45.860 --> 01:07:48.060
That might offend some people who have that issue.

01:07:48.300 --> 01:07:50.360
So, Mike, hi folks.

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Sly Spurling here for Hair Club for a member of him.

01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:53.420
Yeah.

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I'm not only a client.

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I'm a member.

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I'm a member.

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That should be playing in the background.

01:07:59.540 --> 01:08:00.760
No, we're not going that deep.

01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:01.360
Oh, okay.

01:08:01.780 --> 01:08:03.060
It's off the album Signals.

01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.780
It's the last track off the album Signals.

01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:06.740
It's called Countdown.

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I feel like that song is criminally overlooked.

01:08:10.060 --> 01:08:39.420
It really could have been on moving pictures, to be honest with you. He's playing the Rick on that one, and it's just got that heavy, deep bass on there. Yes. And there's like a driving element to that song. There's just a really cool drive to that. And the kind of the voiceover NASA parts are just, I don't know, it's really good. It's definitely a cool tune, yeah. Yeah. All based off of their trip to Florida to see the Columbia Space Shuttle launch in April of 1981. They wrote a song about it.

01:08:39.640 --> 01:09:09.500
That's because they're so cool. Nerds. All right. Yes. Remember that band called XTC? Or XTC? Or XTC, yes. Mr. Pumpkinhead. Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead. That's not the one I'm thinking of, though. Dear God. Hope you got the letter, bud. Not that one either. And not the mayor of whatever town he's from. So, no, this is off of their... Oh, what's the album?

01:09:09.620 --> 01:09:39.200
I had it written. I gotta get the album. One, two, three, four, five senses working overtime. So you know that. But do you know the song Respectable Street? No, it's a deep cut. Well, it is the opening track from their album Black Sea that came out in 1980. I think it's an outstanding song. It's just as they were merging their post-punk and their jangle rock, I guess you would call it. Is that what they called that back then?

01:09:39.620 --> 01:10:08.560
They got it. Well, no, the jangle rock thing they started doing as the 80s went on. It's a cool tune. And it's the fourth single off the album, and it opens up. I think it's great. If you don't know it, give it a spin. If you like that era, it's cool. All right, now those are my honorable mentions. Now I got honorable honorable mentions. I'll do these quick. Dishonorable. These are all more modern bands. These are all bands I've mentioned before with a big surprise to the end for TR.

01:10:09.180 --> 01:10:38.560
All right, you guys have heard me talk about the band Porcupine Tree. I'm going to go with the song Disappear. Oh, yes. That song should be known by more fans, especially these so-called hardcore fans that started with In absentia on. Posers. TR sees me looking. He knows how I feel about this. There's like three different versions of this song out there. All three are awesome. That should be more known. Let's go to that band I like to call Opeth, which is their name. Because that's their name.

01:10:41.060 --> 01:11:06.060
Yeah, which is opeth. And that's their name. Yes. Which is opeth? And that's what he likes to call them. Okay. And they're from Sweden. They like to call themselves too. Yeah. They say opeth. Opeth. Opeth. Opeth. Opeth. Opeth. I like how he does that every show. Yeah. I've got something to say.

01:11:08.620 --> 01:11:38.080
This is off the, well, no, it isn't off the album Watershed. It's a bonus track off of Watershed, and that's the song Derelict Herds. That should have been on the album. Put that song on the album, take burden off. Oh my God, like half the Brock nerds just had heart attacks. I said take burden off. Put Derelict Herds on that album. Now that's a pretty, there's a lot of growling on that album now. There's like four songs in it. All right, keep going. Dream Theater, To Live Forever. That should be known by more fans. All right, which one? 91 or 94?

01:11:40.420 --> 01:12:07.840
94 by a million miles. All right. Yeah. Yeah. It's been released. It's on a bunch of compilations and it was a single, but it should be known by more fans. Yeah. Right. I got two more. Crimson Glory, baby, from the 80s. Yeah. Song called Burning Bridges, which is like their ballad off of Transcendence. I think that song's awesome. I think it's great. I think more people should know it. More people should know the first two Crimson Glory albums. More people should know Crimson Glory.

01:12:08.660 --> 01:12:38.500
Yeah, well. Especially those two albums. They really should. They're just, if you like Queensryche from that period, up through 88, and Sabotage, for that matter, minus one big-ass stinker there in the 80s from Sabotage. Which one was that? Oh, I don't even have it. It's the third one. After, what was that album called? It sucks. You're probably talking about my favorite one. Oh, please don't.

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I'd say it is. Oh no, here we go. Oh god, that's gonna bone me out if you say that. Here we go. It's so radio friendly. Well, it's the second one, Power of the Night. No, that one's decent. Fight for the Rock is what you're thinking of. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's good. That stinks. Bad. But then Hall of the Mountain King. Yeah, so yeah, if you like sirens, Power of the Night's not bad. It's a little flat. It's a little polished compared to the other stuff. But it's good.

01:13:08.620 --> 01:13:10.820
It's the power of the night

01:13:11.470 --> 01:13:12.820
Yeah, but Hall of the Mountain King

01:13:12.830 --> 01:13:15.680
If you like that, then you'll like Crimson Glory

01:13:16.240 --> 01:13:17.900
It's right up there with Queens Rye

01:13:18.020 --> 01:13:18.780
That whole sound

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And my last one, TR, goes out to you

01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.020
It's a major prog supergroup

01:13:24.440 --> 01:13:27.140
that played pop rock

01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:29.600
and it was so depressing

01:13:29.710 --> 01:13:31.420
that these amazing musicians were doing

01:13:32.100 --> 01:13:32.660
pop rock

01:13:33.739 --> 01:13:35.400
But this song on the album

01:13:36.040 --> 01:13:36.560
kicks ass

01:13:37.020 --> 01:13:38.600
That's right, I'm referring to Asia

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And the song is badass. Yeah, it is. I just said it was. I know, but like, but is it? Right, but Soul Survivor. I thought you were going to go deeper than that with like lying to yourself or. No, the point I'm trying to make here is that this song is a rocking song. Yeah. All everyone hears is. They see the woman doing the little ballet and everything from the video. You know, it's the heat of the night. Yeah. Sing everybody.

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So you got all these like little power-ty proggy ballads and then you get this really cool tune that reminds me more of the band UK than it does Asia. Hmm. Should be known by more people. That's the point. I have all kinds of different types of songs. This one is yeah you know it but you should really know it. Yeah. Okay. That's it. That's all I got. Yeah I agree with that. Okay. All right. He's like what are you trying to say about this song? I'm like wait a minute. Yeah.

01:14:38.620 --> 01:15:08.580
Good. Okay. Yes. I agree. All right. Well, some of these of my honorable mentions, I've actually mentioned before on this podcast and on different episodes, but I'm going to just rehash them here because, you know, I can't talk enough about them because I think they're really great tunes. So one of them is Genesis, the Twilight Ale House, which was a

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It should have gone on, I guess, Foxtrot, but they were playing it before Foxtrot. Great tune. Musical Box just played it live recently, which was really cool to see, to hear that, you know, played live. For those of you who don't know, if you don't remember TR saying before, sorry to cut you off, TR, I don't want to forget this part. They're a approved tribute band. Yes. Genesis approves of them. Right.

01:15:37.820 --> 01:15:43.540
and actually gave them a lot of their slides that they used during their live shows.

01:15:44.260 --> 01:15:44.680
Yeah, exactly.

01:15:45.140 --> 01:15:49.320
So these guys are totally legit and they couldn't...

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Awesome live.

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Yeah, exactly.

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They couldn't sound more like them.

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And actually Genesis themselves, like Phil Collins said, they play it better than we did when we were playing it.

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Which is high praise indeed and not misplaced because they're so good.

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And they just they it's it's so cool that they brought this track out because I never expected to hear this song and they played it on the last tour that they did which was awesome so that's one I mentioned this before foreigner girl on the moon from their four album I love the mysterious sound of this song and four had a lot of great big hits but this song kind of I think kind of gets relegated to the background which I think I'm not going to be a good one.

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I think is unfortunate. We talked about The Firm before Midnight Moonlight. I feel like this is another kind of overlooked epic track that is tremendous and I feel like is probably one of their best songs and actually one of Jimmy Page's best pieces of work. The next two are ones I have not mentioned before, but they are bands or people that I've mentioned.

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The first one is Keen, which I mentioned previously. The song is called My Shadow, and it was a bonus track on the Perfect Symmetry album, but I think it's actually better than many of the songs that are on that album. And apparently the song was written for a movie soundtrack or to be used over the final credits of a movie. I don't think it ever was, but they ended up releasing it

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as like a b-side or an extra track for the album and it ended up to me being better than i don't know half of the songs on that album so my shadow from keen uh and then my last one is a pretty deep peter gabriel uh song uh and it's really not peter gabriel it's deep forest with peter gabriel and it's called while the earth sleeps and it's from the strange days soundtrack from 1995

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Gabriel sings Macedonian lyrics in this very catchy song that Deep Forest wrote. Or actually, it's kind of a traditional song that they kind of used. And so anyway, it's got a cool vibe. The extended version of the song is even cooler. And it's one that I've always enjoyed. So anyway, Deep Forest with Peter Gabriel while the earth sleeps. And those are my, I don't know,

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Oh, and one more thing that I didn't mention, but I think I have in previous ones, pretty much everything between the Benz and OK Computer, Radiohead put out, like they had this enormous output of a bunch of singles that didn't go on either of those albums. And there are some tremendous songs from that period that that to me is the sweet spot for Radiohead. They kind of got a little too out there after OK Computer for me.

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But like Bishop's Robes, Lull, there's a whole bunch of tracks that came out in between the Benz and OK Computer, and I really love that period of Radiohead. And so there are a whole bunch of tracks. I could probably, I don't know, there's like, I don't know, at least almost between five and ten tracks that I could name from that period. Yeah, it's like each... It could have been a whole other album. I mean... Well, I think they did. They're all double discs that came out because I have all those. Yeah.

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And I think like the second disc is just loaded with unreleased material, alternate versions of songs. And it's if you're a fan of that band, you got tons of bang for your buck on those things. I don't know if you can get them anymore. I'm not sure if they're still available. I know what you're talking about. But yeah, actually, I think you can get that stuff digitally. Yeah, but I mean, you can't get I think I got them all the way through. Did they do it? Hail for the Thief. Did they do a double on that one, too? Maybe.

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I think I got most of this stuff as like you know when CD singles were still coming out and they did like you know Hurley and and uh McKilladora and a whole bunch of these tracks that they put um that were like b-sides to some of the Ben's and OK Computer songs all their CD singles were EPs basically well yeah they were and and and I mean you're talking like a number of songs that they melatonin I think was one of the tracks um

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There's just so many tracks during that period. They were prolific back then. That were really actually very good songs, but I would bet most Radiohead fans maybe don't really know about them. And to me, that's some of their best material. I don't even know you guys anymore. You don't like Radiohead? I guess I'm going to have to try yet again. I mean, I tried last time we talked about it, and I just don't get them. There's no hooks. It's just mumbling.

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music.

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No, you gotta listen to the Benz.

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I mean, there's...

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I did.

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Really?

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To me, that's like their catchiest stuff.

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Nah.

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Nah.

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Creep?

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George, but...

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Good song.

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Everything else?

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I like Creep.

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:18.540
I don't get it.

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I don't get it.

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Dude, we all have bands like that.

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We all have bands we just don't get it.

01:21:23.180 --> 01:21:23.500
I wanna get it.

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I wanna be like, oh, I'm like Radiohead, but I don't get it.

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Well, that's how I feel about Marillion.

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I just don't get it, and I wanna get it, and I feel like I should get it, but I just

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don't.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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At least a Phish version.

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Yeah. I'll try again. George gets it a little bit. George does get it. I do. He's on board. I'm smart sometimes. George discussing Radiohead. I just feel like yelling, George is getting upset. Serenity now. Woosa. All right. What do you got for us, George? I'm going to start with Fastway. Oh. First two albums. I love the first two albums.

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Yeah, well, this is the third one. Oh, wait, the fourth. Sorry, fourth. Oh, wow. This is from the Trick or Treat soundtrack. Oh, I knew you were going to bring that up. Dude, I love this album. This whole album is my deep cut. But this is about it for them right here. Then they go full on hair metal, don't they? After this, I don't know what the heck they... I don't know what happens. Yeah, I wasn't good after that. But if I have to hear...

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What's the song again? It's not on that album. Must be on the next one. Oh, wow. That looks like it's actually on that album. All right. What the heck is it? Those first two Fastway albums are awesome. Alone. What's the song that they always play? Say What You Will. Say What You Will. I can't stand that anymore.

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I'm so tired of it. That's their way to heaven. They're bohemian raps. Yeah. I'm like, that's still a cool tune though. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, I'm tired of hearing it. They have other cool tunes, but if you could see from the trick or treat soundtrack, which apparently is also on all fired up, I don't know if I would assume it's the same song. Is it on all? It says it's on all fired up. Oh man. I, I haven't listened to while.

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Oh, yeah, it says originally released on the album All Fired Up. All right. So, well, I'm not going with the Trick or Treat album. Then I'm going with All Fired Up. And if you could see. Well, the Trick or Treat album is even a deeper cut, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you knew about it, but. Well, it kind of makes sense now that I know this, which it only took me 40 years to find out. But it's a little different than the rest of the soundtrack.

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It's a little more jangly. It's got some clean guitars and stuff, and it's a little more ballady before it gets heavy. But yeah. All right. Well, anyway, let's not dawdle. I'm glad you picked Fastway, though. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have thought of that. Now I'm going to blow your mind, man. This one is the progeny of a well-known musician. Julian Lennon. Not him. Pretty good.

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Yeah, that's good. Dweezil Zappa and My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama. Oh, yeah. Everybody should know it. Everybody should know that. That's a good song. Yeah, it is. And he's a really good guitar player. Yeah. I don't know why he didn't really take off. He does that Zappa Play Zappa thing. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Nick Cave from the No More Show.

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Shall We Part Album? Darker With The Day. It's the last track on the album. It's about this dude wandering through town. I wonder if he might have Alzheimer's or something and he's just wandering lost around town. I'm not quite sure. It's in a cave. It's weird. But it is such a good song. I frequently find that just popping into my head and singing it. Let's see. What else do we have?

01:25:35.280 --> 01:26:03.860
So the band Marvelous Three, which you may know from like the 90s, like pop punk stuff, their second album, Ready, Sex, Go. This is Butch Walker and Butch Walker was Butch Walker's band. And Butch Walker is really just like one of those guys who write songs for everybody now. But his lyrics are very interesting to me.

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I've always really liked his lyrics.

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And I'm picking the song cold as hell off of this one.

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Um,

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but everything he does is catchy.

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He worked with some people I know as well.

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Um,

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and I think he does probably like country stuff and pop rock stuff now,

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but anyway,

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Butch Walker,

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marvelous three cold as hell.

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John looks like disappointed by this whole thing.

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Not at all.

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Not at all.

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No comments.

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I have no idea who that is or anything about it. I mean, I've heard of Butch Walker, but I've never heard of Marvelous Three, and I couldn't tell you one thing about any of this. Yeah, I unfortunately don't know. Sorry. Okay. Then we will move on. How about some Mind Funk? Remember these guys? This album that I'm referring to came out in 1991. Had Luis Vitek, who was a

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in ministry and read St. Mark formerly of who? Celtic Frost? And this was a bit more funky. Chock full of eclectical musical styles. But the song is called Sister Blue, which was probably the single. I've just always really loved this song. Have you guys heard this at all? No?

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No, unfortunately. Can't say I know it. I've got the deepest.

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All right. Let's go deeper. Let's see what else is down here. How about the, let's say they're German. Yeah. German Gothic Doom band, End of Green. Know that one at all? I'm starting to think that Matt's on this podcast, so you're just making a thing to go along. The album is called Dead End Dreaming, and the song is called

01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:31.180
Dead End Hero. And this was a band that I got into in the late 90s, early 2000s when I was just looking for something different. And I don't know. To my knowledge, they've never been that big. I'm sure they've played Wacken a few million times since they're German. But, you know. Are they heavy? What's their sound? It's not like death metal or anything like that. No, it's melodic.

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I mean, you know, you can handle it. Pick up or check out the album Dead End Dreaming, 2005, and see what you think. Okay. I think it's catchy. Let's see. We've done that. We've done that. We've done that. We've done that. Okay. Here's a band you know, Extreme, from their third album. And I guess this was actually one of the singles, but it's not something I really ever hear on the radio. In the style of their hits,

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like More Than Words and

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the other one.

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Wholehearted.

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This is Tragic Comic.

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I probably have heard it and I just

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am not putting the name in the song together.

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Well, it's a love song and it's my kind of love song

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because it's about this awkward dude

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who can't help but like

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get in his own way on dates and stuff.

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And he's a

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tragic comic because he can't

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help it but he's in love with you.

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And it's like acoustic and melodic and catchy. So that's just always stuck with me. This one goes out to my boy Keith D. Because I know he likes this band. And he's the only other person I know that knows the band. And that is Ned's Atomic Dustbin. I know them. I've heard of them. I know. From their Godfather album, there's two songs, Gray Cell Green and Kill Your Television.

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And when this album came out, and I don't know when it was, it had to be early 90s, I was just like, yes, this is the future. And then I never heard from them again. But it's got like a heavy vibe, but it's kind of British. And I don't know. I don't know what to call it, but it's cool. I like it. And then finally, I'm ending with something local. This is a whole album, not just a song.

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from Baltimore, Maryland.

01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:37.400
Mary Prankster and her album, Blue Skies Over Dundalk.

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Not one for the children.

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Okay.

01:30:42.980 --> 01:30:44.760
Mary was very contrary.

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She was very...

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Yeah, she was very Mary.

01:30:54.660 --> 01:30:55.260
Her song...

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Sounds really happy.

01:30:57.000 --> 01:30:59.420
It's like punk music from Baltimore.

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And it's pretty graphic.

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But it's hilarious.

01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:06.160
And I love it.

01:31:06.160 --> 01:31:06.900
And it's super catchy.

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I don't expect either of you guys to listen to it or like it.

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But I'm putting that out there for the rest of the world.

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Yeah, that's all right.

01:31:16.700 --> 01:31:18.780
That's Mary M-A-R-Y Prankster.

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Unfortunately, they're not around anymore.

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I think she must have paid off her student loan and gone on to do something else.

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But all right, that's from a song. So, all right. All right, nice. That's it for me, fellas. How was Prog Power this year? All right, yeah, so every year, except for one year for me, I've been going to Atlanta, and actually one year to Chicago, the first year, to the fest Prog Power, which this was Prog Power X,

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XXIV, better known as XXIV. And yeah, it was awesome. It was by far the most difficult year to pull off because of all the issues with visas and bands backing out. And it was quite a fest because the bands that were replaced with new bands, I liked almost all of the new band replacements. So it was even a better fest for me than it originally started out.

01:32:26.700 --> 01:32:56.640
But it's a four-day fest of playing progressive metal and power metal. So you would go from... Best example is you would go from listening to Fate's Warning to then listening to Ed Guy. If you know what that means, then you get the fest. Yeah, I get it. Pretty wide. And it's as much as there's a divide between the two types of fans, the prog fans and the power fans.

01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:23.120
who are united with the extreme metal, which is kind of cool, I think. It's a great fest. Everyone gets along for the most part. I don't think there's really too many issues minus people not wearing deodorant and maybe disposing of some methane during the shows. Well, when you're serving jerk chicken out in the lobby. Things are going to happen.

01:33:26.740 --> 01:33:55.940
Well, you see, sir, one thing led to another. Yeah, it's a great fest. The main fest is always Friday and Saturday. It's always been Friday and Saturday. And over the years, Thursday was at it on a small scale, then it became a full day. And then Wednesday was at it on a small scale and became a full day. And it's four full days, with Wednesday being the shortest day. There was only five bands. All the other days have six bands.

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So that starts around, I want to say what, 3.30, I think, 3 or 3.30. But the other fest doors are open at noon and, you know, first band goes on at 2. And it's an awesome fest. So you can come and go as you please. It's in the same venue, has not changed in 23 fests. It's been the same venue. Glenn's never made it bigger. And I think that's what makes it even a better time. Because it's never going to be expanded.

01:34:27.380 --> 01:34:30.520
We all know the venue. I know every corner of that venue.

01:34:30.860 --> 01:34:30.980
Yeah.

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That we can go into, and it's awesome. So it's good.

01:34:34.860 --> 01:34:39.640
Did you want me to read off the name of the bands I played or what? I could do it real quick if you want me to.

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Go for it.

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Okay, so on Wednesday, TR did not attend with me. I'll let TR talk too, obviously, because he was there with me.

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Oh, why don't we talk? We've heard enough of Tim. Come on. Just kidding, buddy.

01:34:51.280 --> 01:34:55.060
I like it. No, I'm kidding. I'll do it real quick. I'll do it real quick.

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He could tell you what he did on Wednesday

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because I was with him on Tuesday at the same place

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but he went back to that place on Wednesday

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but we can circle back. I'll run through

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these days. So Wednesday was

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this band called Aries Descendant

01:35:09.280 --> 01:35:10.940
Don't know him. Didn't watch him

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They're an international band

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Next band from Italy called

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Secret Sphere. I did not see

01:35:17.080 --> 01:35:19.100
them either. I've heard of them

01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:21.080
Yeah, I've heard of them. Just never one

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song. Third band

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from Sweden was called Eclipse. They're a hard rock band. I watched them. It's fine. It's hard rock. They rocked out. The band I came for on Wednesday from Norway, Green Carnation, which is a well-known name in the prog metal world. They've got ties to the band In the Woods, which started out as a black metal band and became like a proggy black metal band. They're still around, albeit one member of the band has left. That's it. And then the headline was supposed to be,

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Hammerfall from Sweden, but they had to cancel. And they brought in a band from Austria called Visions of Atlantis, which I did not stay for. I only stayed for two bands. Green Carnation was great, minus the fact that they had close to a 45-minute, 50-minute delay to their set. So they only played half their set, which sucked. But what they were able to do is they were able to play the whole new album that dropped that following Friday. So we were the first people ever to see the album play.

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in its entirety. Nice. That was cool. So, did you want me to keep running through the days or, TR, did you want to jump in and see what you did on Wednesday? Well, so, as John alluded to on Tuesday, when we got to Atlanta, we went to this, one of our favorite beer bars there called the Brick Store Pub. And they, upstairs at this bar, they have like a, like a Belgian bar where they have a bunch of Belgian beers. They've got this,

01:36:52.960 --> 01:37:22.380
really awesome cellar where they've got a whole bunch of aged beers. And it's just a tremendous beer bar. It's so good. They've got so many great choices on tap and then bottles and cans. And so we just hung out there. And while we were there, we met the bartender, Eric, who's behind the bar. And he said, oh, well, if you guys are going to be around tomorrow, we've got this beer and cheese pairing thing.

01:37:22.480 --> 01:37:51.640
that we're going to do. And you should really check it out because it's going to be really awesome. And we're going to have a brewer from Scepter Brewing. And our cheese guy that is resident here at Brick Store Pub has done a bunch of pairings with a bunch of their beers. And it's going to be awesome. So of course, John was gutted because he was going to go see Green Carnation. But because I didn't have a ticket to any of that, I went to the Brick Store Pub on Wednesday for their beer and cheese pairing.

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And it was pretty awesome. The day before on Tuesday when we were both there, they were playing some kind of like, I don't know, slightly weird music. And we're like, hey, what's with the music? And Eric's like, oh, well, the owner or the manager or whatever said that, you know, we can't have any guitar based music. What? Yeah. So like they had like some of this kind of thing.

01:38:22.440 --> 01:38:52.400
of wonky jazz music and I don't know what you'd even call it but it was just like so he was like we can't we we can't play anything that you know was like electric guitar music and it's like okay so so imagine my surprise on Wednesday when they start playing like master of reality and some other like heavy like guitar stuff and I'm like hey wait a minute you guys said that you know you didn't play any like guitar music and the guy's like

01:38:52.420 --> 01:39:21.940
Well, he said, no. He said, whenever we do these beer and cheese pairing things, the brewer gets to pick the music. So I was like, oh, okay. So I went and I'm sitting at the bar and I'm just sitting there and having a good time. And I'd been there for a little while. And up to the bar walks Bron Daler from Mastodon. And he's just like, you know,

01:39:22.400 --> 01:39:50.860
asked the bartender, like, I guess he's looking for a beer or whatever. And he walks up, like, basically right next to me because I'm sitting at the bar. And I look over and I'm like, oh, hey, Brian. And he's like, hello. And so it's just like, wow, okay. So one of my, like, metal heroes just, like, walking up all of a sudden. Yeah. And, but we had heard that he comes to this place and he's a beer guy. Like, he is into craft beers and, you know,

01:39:52.960 --> 01:40:21.660
Frequenced different places in Atlanta. And this is one of them. This is one of the better beer bars in Atlanta. So I guess we weren't really, I wasn't surprised. And anyway, later I got a picture with him, bought him a beer. He's just a super cool guy and it was a good time. And the beers and the cheeses were well matched. It was a really good night. I had a good time. So I can't recommend the Brick Store Pub enough. It's an awesome place if you really like.

01:40:22.060 --> 01:40:52.040
beers and Belgian beers and just pretty much any awesome craft beers, you're going to find them there. So it's a good time. So John, you missed a good time, but I know you had a good time watching Green Carnation too. So you went to a bar within a bar and you went upstairs to the basement. Yeah, where they have the cellar. Where they have the cellar. On the second floor. With rock stars. Okay. Yeah. I can attest to brand

01:40:52.060 --> 01:40:57.240
at beer bars because he sat it up next to me at the porter beer bar one afternoon when i was

01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:02.400
before i went over to prog power and he sat down i was like oh hey how you doing he's like hi

01:41:02.870 --> 01:41:07.740
same thing as tr and then ended up sitting there next to me for like i don't know an hour or

01:41:07.740 --> 01:41:12.000
something like that an hour and a half so that was probably after the news about uh

01:41:13.200 --> 01:41:43.160
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yikes. All right. Carry on. All right. So Thursday, I'll run through these real quick. Hard to see. My screen's a little small. First band, Alterium from Italy. I did not go see them. Next band from Brazil, Maestrick, I think is how you say their name. Didn't go see them either. Mind you, I'm on my own again tonight because

01:41:43.180 --> 01:41:44.660
just hanging out.

01:41:45.480 --> 01:41:49.220
He went to this other place that was a bar within a bar within a bar in the basement upstairs.

01:41:50.620 --> 01:41:52.360
No, I took it a little more easy that day.

01:41:52.380 --> 01:41:52.820
Took it easy.

01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:54.060
All right.

01:41:54.120 --> 01:41:58.760
So the third band was supposed to be the ocean playing all of Plegio, but they backed

01:41:58.940 --> 01:42:01.620
out literally right after the announcement.

01:42:02.180 --> 01:42:02.480
Jerks.

01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:03.620
The previous year.

01:42:03.620 --> 01:42:03.840
Last year.

01:42:04.100 --> 01:42:04.220
Yeah.

01:42:04.340 --> 01:42:04.800
Last year.

01:42:05.380 --> 01:42:12.080
So they were replaced early on by the kind of sludgy proggy band, which basically, you

01:42:12.100 --> 01:42:41.740
as the baby of Opeth and Macedon, for all intents and purposes, a band called Ancients. They were outstanding. They were so good. And I don't think I'll be able to see them on their upcoming U.S. tour because I just can't stand it shows that long anymore. It's tough. It's going to have to be, I'm going to have to like gut out a band I have to see. And I don't have to see them, unfortunately, because I had the chance to see them at Prog Power. And they're great live. They're so good. The next band was supposed to be Iron Savior from,

01:42:42.100 --> 01:43:11.700
Germany, they backed out for their own personal reasons. There was not a visa issue with them. And they were replaced by Death Doom band out of Chicago called November's Doom. Nice. Fine by me. Yeah, me too. I love November's Doom. Looking forward to that new album. Yep, that's next week, I think, isn't it? Oh, that's right. This is Listember for me. This is a crazy month of releases. Well done.

01:43:12.100 --> 01:43:40.640
Between the Buried and Me, Paradise Lost, Amorphous, November's Doom, all in three weeks. I listened to a little bit of that Between the Buried and Me, and I was just like, what? Yeah. Yeah. I believe that. They are avant-garde, man. Okay, so they were great, and I should state that Paul Kerr from November's Doom sang a song with Green Carnation the night before, so it was cool to see that also.

01:43:41.600 --> 01:44:11.060
And while they're not proggy at all, they have a little bit in their later material is getting just a touch. It's like splashes, you know, accents. All right. After that was followed by the Danish band Vola, which is, uh, it's hard to describe them. If you know the band Voyager, kind of a synthy, I don't want to say pop, but it's synthy alternate rock, prog rock, prog metal kind of sound.

01:44:11.080 --> 01:44:12.840
Very heavy on the synths and

01:44:13.120 --> 01:44:14.500
there's somewhat of a wall of sound but

01:44:15.140 --> 01:44:17.360
really talented band. I just never

01:44:17.420 --> 01:44:19.440
bought anything by them but I've seen them twice

01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:20.520
How do you spell it?

01:44:21.380 --> 01:44:23.260
V-O-L-A

01:44:23.580 --> 01:44:25.560
Okay. Yeah so if you like the band

01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:27.220
Voyager you might like Mola

01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:29.400
and I will say our

01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:31.380
good friends Julie and Lance that

01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:33.840
Julie is a

01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:36.000
frequent participant on the Metalheads

01:44:36.180 --> 01:44:37.840
podcast New Music Friday and she

01:44:38.160 --> 01:44:39.180
comments a lot on stuff

01:44:40.340 --> 01:45:09.160
They convinced me to stick around for them. The first time they were at Prague Power and I liked it. I stuck around again for them the second time. And then my night ended there because I did not stick around for Sonata Artica. That's too power metal-ish for me, but they're a big name and I know fans love them. Like TR said. Yeah, he took it easy that day. We did go to the Puppet Museum. I want to just briefly mention the Puppet Museum. The Center for Puppetry Arts, which is literally

01:45:09.200 --> 01:45:39.160
right around the corner from the venue. And I'll say this, you know, at first I know you were a little skeptical, John, but it turned out to be a really good time because obviously, as you can imagine, they had a very large Jim Henson Muppets section. Sweet. And anybody that, you know, is our age or around our age or has lived any time in the past 30 years has seen Muppets and has seen

01:45:39.740 --> 01:45:41.340
other stuff from movies,

01:45:42.140 --> 01:45:44.280
be it Star Wars and Yoda or,

01:45:44.410 --> 01:45:44.740
you know,

01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:47.520
or Fraggle Rock or you name it,

01:45:47.960 --> 01:45:48.180
um,

01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:49.320
Dark Crystal,

01:45:49.590 --> 01:45:49.920
et cetera.

01:45:50.860 --> 01:45:50.960
Uh,

01:45:51.100 --> 01:45:53.820
you've seen that kind of puppetry,

01:45:54.500 --> 01:45:55.500
but there was also,

01:45:58.260 --> 01:45:58.700
yeah.

01:46:00.240 --> 01:46:00.480
When I,

01:46:00.760 --> 01:46:00.880
you know,

01:46:00.940 --> 01:46:02.640
I saw something that said,

01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:03.480
um,

01:46:04.020 --> 01:46:04.660
I don't always,

01:46:04.820 --> 01:46:06.000
but when I do,

01:46:06.180 --> 01:46:06.480
I do,

01:46:06.660 --> 01:46:06.780
do,

01:46:06.830 --> 01:46:06.940
do,

01:46:07.090 --> 01:46:07.200
do,

01:46:07.700 --> 01:46:07.820
Yeah.

01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:36.700
But they also had like a section of puppetry throughout the world, throughout history. And, you know, indigenous cultures throughout the world have always used puppets in some way. Every, every continent. Yeah. Everywhere. It's like American, African, Asian. Yeah. It's, it's a, it's, you know, thematically it's, it's, it's a human thing.

01:46:37.380 --> 01:46:41.260
And so that was very interesting to me to see like ancient,

01:46:41.820 --> 01:46:42.440
like Japanese,

01:46:43.060 --> 01:46:43.200
ancient,

01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:43.680
um,

01:46:44.700 --> 01:46:49.080
indigenous peoples from Australia or North America,

01:46:50.040 --> 01:46:50.680
South America.

01:46:51.060 --> 01:46:51.500
It's just,

01:46:51.820 --> 01:46:52.000
it's,

01:46:52.660 --> 01:46:55.840
it's been pervasive across the world throughout history.

01:46:56.740 --> 01:46:56.860
So,

01:46:57.660 --> 01:46:57.960
you know,

01:46:58.540 --> 01:47:00.220
we think of like goofy stuff,

01:47:01.020 --> 01:47:01.240
you know,

01:47:01.320 --> 01:47:02.420
punch and Judy or whatever.

01:47:03.200 --> 01:47:03.440
Um,

01:47:03.860 --> 01:47:04.060
but,

01:47:04.540 --> 01:47:06.560
but there's a lot more to puppetry.

01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:36.640
And so, I don't know, I got a pretty good education. John pointed out that I missed it, but we saw Pokey. Pokey was there. And of course, Lamb Chop, and a bunch of different various puppets that I'm sure most people are familiar with. Well, what I want to know is, are you now a master of puppets? No, that's Jim Henson. Okay. Now he's a master of

01:47:37.180 --> 01:48:06.640
Well, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't sure what to expect. And I parlayed it into us going for Thai food afterwards, which was half a block away. Yeah, it was just like right there, too. And then I went to the venue. So it worked out and then TR decided to take it easy. So anything else about the Puppet Museum, TR? Nope. But I did visit the Millennium Gate Museum, which was...

01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:36.640
maybe half a mile from there, which was basically the history of Atlanta in a museum. So I was the only person there. So I got like a personal, personalized tour from the person that was, you know, running the place. So it was pretty cool. And so, yeah, it was a very interesting. They covered the whole history from prehistory all the way up till today. And there was plenty to see. So if you get to Atlanta and you need to go to Atlanta,

01:48:36.680 --> 01:49:05.860
Do. Place to go. Check it out. Millennium Gate. Did you hear any music in Atlanta? We're getting to that. Yeah. Wait for it. Wait for it. George, I was already, I'd already seen Green Carnation, November's Doom and Ancients. I was, I was riding high. I don't think I was asking you. But I'm telling you. Okay. All right. So day three. So this is the main fest. Day one and day two,

01:49:06.700 --> 01:49:36.640
It stays done by a different promoter. Day three is Glenn, who is harvesting. He's been running the fest since day one. Meaning the first. Not day one of the day. But he used to do all the days and he slowly divvied up the process to two other guys, Nathan and Milton. Milton's actually taking over the fest when Glenn retires after next year. So hopefully we can continue to support him. So real quick, Glenn has

01:49:36.680 --> 01:50:04.980
the worst year ever in terms of keeping his lineup set straight. Six of his 12 bands had visa issues. And visa issues are not new, but they are on steroids right now. That is without question. But they're not a new thing. It's just you might lose a band or two, but when you lose half your roster, that's tough to stomach.

01:50:05.120 --> 01:50:35.080
I will say his replacements were significantly better from my perspective mind you all right so real quick I will run through this and I'll let TR chime in after I get excited because there's a lot of moving parts especially on day three okay so the first band was supposed to be Majestica from Brazil or from Sweden I guess Sweden Brazil they uh no I well there's the Maestrick which was from

01:50:35.120 --> 01:51:04.400
I kept getting the two names mixed up throughout the week down there. So it's Majestica. They were supposed to go on first. They ended up going on second because the band who was second, which was Temek, had to drop out. And a new band was added called Sometime in February. They got the opening slot. Cool instrumental band. I know TR was really into them. I liked them. I just, day three was the day that wore me out. And I think we all, and it's funny, we're talking, we sat with our friends, Julian Lance,

01:51:04.580 --> 01:51:34.560
the whole time. And we all kind of agreed. It was an intense day for every band you watched. It just was. And even them playing instrumental music, which is uncommon at the fest. Glenn tried to avoid those bands and he had to bring them in. Incredibly talented, but I just got worn out because they're just so good talent-wise. So, Terry, do you want to say anything about some time? Yeah, I mean, obviously, again, it's a trio and the guitar player is tremendous, but

01:51:34.560 --> 01:52:04.520
Every one of those guys in that band were talented. It's kind of technical music, so I can see how after a little while you could kind of get a little fatigued. Their set list was relentless in terms of each song kind of mirrored the previous song. There were no breaks for slow down. Yeah, they didn't have any kind of chilled out sections to kind of give you a break. They brought it. And I will tell you, last year at TRC,

01:52:04.580 --> 01:52:34.400
the band No Spoon looked like they were the guys who greeted you at Home Depot when you were looking for something in the aisle. I will say this band was the band playing magic at your local comic book store. Well, I will say they didn't have a lot of stage presence. And I think that's just, I don't know. I don't know that they played a lot. That's okay. They're fabulous musicians. They are. They're outstanding musicians, but they could do with a little more stage presence because it was just kind of like they went up there, they played it,

01:52:34.580 --> 01:52:36.760
But that was kind of it, you know.

01:52:36.860 --> 01:52:38.760
Have they heard of Led Zeppelin's presence?

01:52:39.200 --> 01:52:39.300
Maybe.

01:52:39.610 --> 01:52:39.720
Yeah.

01:52:40.540 --> 01:52:42.720
There's a fan who had no stage presence either.

01:52:43.030 --> 01:52:44.380
They just kind of stood there and played.

01:52:45.080 --> 01:52:49.100
Robert Plant kind of pushes, you know, little Robert Plant out a little bit, you know, and stuff.

01:52:49.600 --> 01:52:50.240
That's about it.

01:52:52.440 --> 01:52:53.060
But yeah, okay.

01:52:53.360 --> 01:52:53.780
They didn't.

01:52:54.620 --> 01:53:03.920
So TR says that because there's a band that's coming up on day four that had like retro exuberance

01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:33.560
from the 80s that we'll get to. But we're not on day four yet, are we? No, we're not yet. Yeah, so that's why he's bringing this up, because he was into that band. And I, for me, I'll tell you, I was getting tired of them. But anyway, but for different reasons. Okay, so the next band, making their debut in the States, they've been around for, guess what? God, what seems like 20 years? Bellacore, which is a melodic death metal band. Oh, yeah, nice. With a lot of prog. Yeah. Good. But man, again, another band that just,

01:53:33.620 --> 01:54:03.600
They got on stage and just cranked out song after song after song. Flawless. The one guy looked like he was 12 up there on stage. He's not because he had his hair hanging in his face, but they're all fabulous musicians. And they're one of the bands like Insomnium, you know, in Morning of the Modern, a lot of death bands taking their cues from Edge of Sanity and I guess what At the Gates and stuff like that. Those types of bands, but way more

01:54:03.660 --> 01:54:32.940
It was good, but it was relentless. I mean, it just, I was afterwards, geez. They were not a replacement band. They were an original band. Next was supposed to be the Night Flight Orchestra, and they had to also cancel. People were really upset about them canceling. I was like, oh, okay. I wasn't going to watch them anyway. They were replaced by Rivers of Nile.

01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:35.800
which I was down with that. Again,

01:54:37.700 --> 01:54:39.160
just relentless. They're set.

01:54:39.700 --> 01:54:40.780
No breaks in their set.

01:54:41.160 --> 01:54:42.420
By the time they were done, I was like,

01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:45.800
what the hell? I am just exhausted.

01:54:46.400 --> 01:54:46.600
Yeah.

01:54:46.780 --> 01:54:47.500
Yeah. And it was great.

01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:48.060
And I know TR,

01:54:48.140 --> 01:54:51.380
you said you had to take a break for that kind of wall of sound that they bring.

01:54:51.820 --> 01:54:52.000
Yeah.

01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:52.980
It was pretty intense.

01:54:53.320 --> 01:54:54.000
Yeah. Very intense.

01:54:54.440 --> 01:54:54.980
And they didn't relent.

01:54:55.520 --> 01:54:56.880
It was heavy.

01:54:58.300 --> 01:55:00.980
But all these bands were getting great receptions.

01:55:01.240 --> 01:55:02.360
Everyone we saw was-

01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:02.660
Oh, yeah.

01:55:04.500 --> 01:55:32.420
So next was supposed to be Vandenplass, a prog metal band from Germany. And we got the unfortunate news that they weren't coming either, which was too bad because they played the fest many times. And that's why I didn't understand why they had visa issues, because there should have been no issue with them getting in the States. They were replaced by something called Prog-ject. So project, get it? P-R-O-G. And it was a,

01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:41.200
of like superstars with the lead singer being the keyboardist from wait for it band and plus

01:55:44.620 --> 01:55:49.680
but it featured uh mike cannelly and guitar if you know mike cannelly is just

01:55:51.220 --> 01:55:57.980
insane guitar player killer played with everybody didn't we just see him somewhere i just yeah

01:55:57.980 --> 01:56:27.840
Yeah. Devin Townsend. Yeah. He was Devin Townsend. Yes. And yes, George, he still looked like an old man getting a coffee at a Starbucks or something. Yeah. You know, the nice little dress shirt and slacks and everything. See, you call them slacks on those type of guys. They're not just pants, right? Trousers. Yeah. Yeah. Trousers, which was even older. Yeah. It became slacks sometime in the 70s because they had that crease, you know, down the middle. That's right. I didn't realize Jonathan Hoover on drums until he announced them at the end. I was like, that's Jonathan Hoover? What the? A lot of F.

01:56:28.040 --> 01:56:57.960
words coming on after that and then uh is it rio okamoto i can never say his last name i can't remember the keyboardist from the band spock's beard and for life me i cannot remember the bassist name but he's played with like zappa plays zappa fabulous band that just played all 70s prog rock from all the giants and they did most of the bands and medleys to get as much music impossible so it's an hour and a half of hearing emerson lake and palmer uk

01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:27.100
Gently, Gentle Giant, Yes, King Crimson, Rush. And Rush was the only band that got 80s music, which I thought was awesome. We only play 70s rock. Then they play like three Rush songs from the 80s. And don't forget the Yes. Yeah, Yes. So it was just, and it was cool. It was great. And it's all these instrumental pieces lumped in with bits and pieces of songs. So that was cool. Nice break for me because I needed that after all that intensity.

01:57:27.240 --> 01:57:30.160
And then the last band was Ordon Ogin.

01:57:30.480 --> 01:57:31.220
Yeah, I like them.

01:57:32.020 --> 01:57:32.320
They're cool.

01:57:32.660 --> 01:57:35.880
We've seen them twice, but I was like, at that point, I was like, I'm tapping out.

01:57:36.610 --> 01:57:40.320
To make matters worse, unfortunately, the lead singer got really sick right before the show.

01:57:41.040 --> 01:57:44.140
So they got all the credit in the world to this band.

01:57:44.700 --> 01:57:46.280
They gutted out a show without their lead singer.

01:57:47.160 --> 01:57:47.900
They went out and played.

01:57:48.010 --> 01:57:48.700
They played their set.

01:57:49.280 --> 01:57:49.640
Instrumental?

01:57:51.300 --> 01:57:51.960
I can't remember.

01:57:52.010 --> 01:57:54.640
I don't even know what they did because we didn't stick around.

01:57:54.870 --> 01:57:55.480
We were so tired.

01:57:57.700 --> 01:58:25.920
So they stuck it out, but you didn't. Yeah, that's right. All the credit to them. None but you. Sometimes you gotta just... You gotta know. A man's got to know his limitations. Do you want to add anything on those TRs? I don't want to drag... I didn't want to drag my part out too much, but did you want to say anything about those bands? No, I mean, you covered everything that I would have said, you know, and we talked about sometime in February and the project, which were my two favorites of that day. Yeah. Yeah.

01:58:26.380 --> 01:58:55.640
I needed to slow down a little bit. Yeah. Actually, you're right. That came at the right time for me, too, because Bellacor was heavy and Rivers of Nile was crushing. And I was ready to just kind of get a break from all that. It was a little too intense for me. And so, yeah. And it was cool because you don't hear these prog kind of songs. Nobody's playing that stuff. I mean, yes.

01:58:55.840 --> 01:59:23.120
Yes is still out there. And Musical Box plays Genesis, but not the Genesis that these guys played. And so, you know, and then some of the Crimson stuff, like even King Crimson probably doesn't play some of that stuff. So it was, you know, it was a place of songs. They play those songs. But, you know, it's it was just kind of cool to hear what they did. And, you know, obviously you're not going to hear Rush anymore other than tribute band. So it was it was fun to hear that stuff.

01:59:23.260 --> 01:59:51.840
And the way that the medleys and the pieces that they chose and the way they strung them together was kind of cool too. So that was good. Yeah. All right. So last day. Try to do this quickly. So the original band to start the day off was called Aviations. I don't know what happened with them. I don't remember. I think I could be wrong. It says they're a U.S. band here on this list, but maybe I'm wrong about that. But they were replaced by a band actually from the States called Lux Terminus, which was another instrumental band.

01:59:52.700 --> 02:00:22.340
with the keyboardist. It's keyboard, bass, and drums. And the keyboardist is a young guy. They're all from Cleveland. Our friends Julian and Lance know him. He's played with a ton of these prog and prog metal bands. And I believe now he's actually officially a member with Within Temptation. He started playing with them live, and I think he's now a full-fledged member of the band. He's a kid. I mean, they're all kids, all three of them. They basically were the equivalent of somewhere in February.

02:00:22.700 --> 02:00:51.180
Just young guys. All incredibly talented. It was cool. I liked that. I enjoyed it. I had listened to it before, but a little more modern prog sound than sometime in February. So it then was supposed to be all for metal, which I was like, wow, I'm not going to be watching them. And they were replaced by this band called Night Demon. Oh, yeah. I know them. Yeah. So the 80s called and said, can you represent us on stage?

02:00:52.700 --> 02:01:22.560
Yes. And they did. Oh, yes. So much so that I commented afterwards. I think they took their cues from Iron Maiden on this. Yeah. They took plenty of pages from Iron Maiden's book and Motorhead's book. Yep. Pretty much. They were running all around and got a three-piece band going crazy. Or three or four-piece. I can't remember. Three-piece? And a biscuit? Well, they had two guitars. That's right. They did have two guitars. I couldn't remember the second guitars.

02:01:23.400 --> 02:01:52.580
They even had their own version of the Night Demon, like Eddie, come out on stage walking very slow and awkward. With his glowing eyes and his raised chalice. Yeah. And I know you like them. Did you want to say anything about them at all? I thought they had a cool vibe. I like the kind of late 70s, early 80s, hard rock, new wave of British heavy metal kind of sound that they have. With speed metal thrown in.

02:01:52.700 --> 02:02:22.520
Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's like this galloping thing and they just, it's melodic. It rocks. It's fun. It just, it was a cool show and I really enjoyed it. And I, prior to this, I never even heard of them. And so I know they've been around a while. I don't know how I kind of miss them, but I enjoyed their set and I liked what they did. I don't know that I'm, you know, going to get all their material or anything, but they were fun to watch live.

02:02:22.700 --> 02:02:25.120
I think it's only two or three albums right

02:02:25.580 --> 02:02:29.660
yeah but I think I think they've been they've actually been around a long time but maybe

02:02:29.880 --> 02:02:35.040
didn't put that many albums not much output yeah yeah exactly but it was fun and they were

02:02:35.140 --> 02:02:40.100
really good and they were just definitely rocking and it was like it was just it was fun and it was

02:02:40.160 --> 02:02:44.240
cool I really enjoyed them and they had a pretty cool metal look you know what I mean like they just

02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:51.160
just the way that they played and they kind of like you know the playing flying v's and it was just

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It's like very medley looking. So it was cool. It was 80s. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Big time. All right. So the next band, which I actually was kind of bummed. I wanted to see this. It was supposed to be Jalicic, which is the singer Jalicic. Oh, yeah. That was going to be so good. Fabulous as a singer. And it was supposed to be, I guess, his own band. He had to back out and it was replaced by Saigon Kick, believe it or not. It's still around, eh?

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With Jeff Scott Soto, right? With Jeff Scott Soto singing. And as much as I like listening to Jeff Scott Soto sing, I can't keep up with all his projects. And I needed a break, unfortunately. So we did not stick around for that. Matter of fact, we didn't stick around for the next two bands. Because the next band was Symmetry Skyline, which is the lead singer from Dark Tranquility, which made his third appearance at Prog Power for three different bands. I believe the other band was Halo Effect was last year.

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So he's become kind of a regular there himself. I don't even know what Symmetry Skyline does. It's kind of like a gothic thing going, I guess. Rock, metal. I don't think it's like melodic death-like dark tranquility. I could be wrong about that. Then the next band was a band called Skald, which played this kind of Nordic folk music. Definitely the outlier in the fest.

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And what I didn't know is that they are not from a Nordic country or Scandinavia. They are from France. So I think we kind of felt like the folk was Celtic folk. Maybe I'm wrong about that. But everyone, I think, would probably assume just from like looking at them, you think, oh, they're going to be some kind of. Yeah, like Scandinavian or Scandinavian or. Yeah. So that was like, oh. Like Viking, you know, stuff. But maybe it's more Celtic. I don't know.

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It was cool for the first 30 minutes. We still have an hour more to go. And I just got worn out because it was that same drum thing they were doing. The songs were samey, you know, for me. I'm glad I saw it, though. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, but you're right. You know, a little bit went a long way. Yeah. And yeah, after about half an hour to 45 minutes,

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It was like, okay, yeah, kind of get this. Yeah, got it. He's wearing a big, like, sheepskin outfit and everything. And they have beards like those dudes that go to Burning Man. You know, so, but very talented, all of them. I just, I got worn out. And then the final band that closed out, Frog Power 24, XXIV, Symphony X, returned triumphantly for the,

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fourth time, maybe fifth time, but they've only played twice in the last, God knows how many years. And they put on a killer set. They're on tour right now. And I was nervous because we looked at the set from their previous shows. And I got to tell you, I was like, this ain't doing it for me. I just don't like this set. We've seen it. I don't know how many times. Yeah. You know, variations of the set. They're playing it. They always play the same core songs. I was like, all right, I'm getting done with this. And they came out and proceeded to

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give us a half different set than what they're doing on tour and we also got songs they haven't played in forever like the accolade which yeah they came out and played the first four songs from the divine wings of tragedy i thought we're getting the whole album man this is gonna be so badass and of course they pulled the rug out from underneath me after that but it was cool hey the fact that we got that much was a surprise yeah they did a tribute uh to glenn the promoter which was

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is very cool. And you could see he was maybe getting a touch bit emotional down there about it. Because they're not only a fan favorite, but they're a fest mainstay. Because they've played there so much. They're at the first one. Yeah, I was going to say, did they play the first one? Yeah. And I've seen them. I think that's the fourth time I've seen them. I think I missed them one time. They played there a lot. And we've seen them a lot, you know, outside of the fest.

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And that was it. It was a good fest. You want to add anything there? Well, I just want to say, first of all, Michael Romeo, the guitarist from Symphony X, is amazing. If you think you've seen guitar playing, this guy, first of all, he plays flawlessly. And there had to have been a million notes. And it looks so easy.

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And yet, you know, it's not. I mean, it's complex technical music. Melodic as hell. But yes, it's very melodic. And this guy makes it look so easy. And he just rips it off. And just, it just smoked. And he's so good. The whole band is great. But like, you know, I'm always looking at the guitar player. And man, that guy just rips it every time. And that's why,

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Even though, like John says, we've seen them play these same songs again and again. You watch this guy tear it up, and it's just like, oh yeah, this guy's so good. And even when it's the same songs again and again, just seeing them play it and seeing this guy just rip it up, it's just so worth it. But like John said, we got a bunch of songs that I don't think

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I mean I kind of expected that when they go to Prague Power they're going to mix it up a little because it's Prague Power and it's a little different and that audience you know is not that they are expecting to hear like some chestnuts and we got that you know we got a lot of cool tracks that I wasn't sure that they would do or that they would bring up and it was really cool to see that and so yeah they

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They killed it. Their set was awesome. Everybody ate it up. And you could see Glenn. He enjoyed it. Everybody was singing along. And they just sounded so good. Russ Allen, the vocalist, is so tremendous. And that guy, he's so good. The whole band is amazing. Every one of those guys is so talented. And together, they just kill it. I try not to miss them. Even though, like we said,

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We've kind of seen the same set now because they haven't really released a new album in years. And so there hasn't been a lot of new material. So we kind of see some of the same songs. I'm not sure why they don't kind of pull out different songs from different albums for their sets. But it didn't matter. It was such a good show. And I always try to see them whenever they come around just because they are so good.

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And it's just, I don't care if it's the same songs, they're just so good that you just got to hear them. They did, they did pull out a few new songs for this tour already on the set list. It's just, it's those same four songs we've seen so many times. And they're only playing like 12, 13 songs on, you know, during the show. So that's one, over a third of your show is the same songs you've seen for the last 15 years. You know, but they did, like I said, we got.

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Three songs right off the bat that they weren't doing in the tour. Three out of the first four songs were songs they hadn't done yet. And they rearranged the order of the songs too for our set. And then we got a couple songs that they are doing on the tour that they haven't played in a long time. So that was cool. One quick note about Mike Romeo. I'm not a guitar player and I leaned over to TR after the second song. I was just like, I'm going to F this guy. He's just that good. Yeah, he really is. Anyway, so that's the Fest.

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Probably most people are like I've never heard of any of these bands

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Well hit them with the next year's lineup

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Yeah so this will be the last one

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with Glenn as a promoter I'll do this really

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fast I don't want to take too much time

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on this but this is by far

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the best lineup

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they've ever had

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so starting with day

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three this is the promoter for this day

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is this guy named Nathan

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who does it

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or day one excuse me

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Yeah, day one. Sorry, I misspoke. Jeez, give me a break, man. I've been up since five. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the right day here. John's had a lot of trouble today. What, twice? Twice is a lot. All right. If we're going to start bringing receipts, it's going to get out there. Oh, what is it with the word receipts these days? That's like the new thing. Yeah, I got receipts. I made you stop, didn't I? Didn't I? I made you stop. Yeah. All right. Anyway. Let me do this real quick. So day four, it's going to start out as...

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You pay attention? Yeah. Day one. First band is called The Reticent. Every band in that venue will be crying during their set because they cried the last time they played. Deeply emotional, progmental band. They're from the U.S. Second band, Nivera. Is that how you say it? Nivera? Nivera? Whatever. They're from Italy. Don't know a thing about them. Third band, also from Italy, Fabio Leone. T.R., would you like to do his name for me?

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Thank you.

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Dawn of Victory.

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Is that a Rhapsody album, George?

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It is.

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I think people are going to go nuts.

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There's going to be a lot of swords and dragons.

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And it's for those, for power metal fans, they are going to love it.

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And he's a good singer.

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I've seen him a number of times.

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There are different bands.

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Next band from the UK, Threshold, psyched about that.

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They've only been on mainland US, I think, three or four times.

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Three times.

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I've seen them all three times at Prog Power.

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And then the final band on day one is Enseferum. Is that how you say their name? Enseferum, yeah. Enseferum. They're playing, which I guess they're like, what, a folky metal band? Yeah. People went crazy for them when they heard that. Day two, Thursday, Milton is the promoter on this. I did not know the first band that came up. They'd show a video for each one of these days, and TR went nuts. They informed me who it was. I was like, oh, shit, kind of cool. First band from the U.S. Fires in the Distance. Oh, yeah. They're playing, so that'll be cool.

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We saw them on the Amorphous Tour, and I know T.R., you've seen them a number of times at Birmingham, when they played Birmingham, the Meadery.

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Yes.

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Next band, Scardust is coming next. I've heard the name, don't know much about them. Following band, Taramaze, I believe they're Australian. They're cool. I mean, they're a prog metal band.

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I think we've seen them before, haven't we?

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I think we have once before.

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They were at another prog power.

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Either Taramaze or Pyramaze.

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Oh, that might be. Yeah, you're right. I might be wrong about that then. I was at that one. I can't remember all the mazes. And it was good. Whoever we saw was good. Yeah. Next one is an Italian band Elden King. And they're playing a special set of two different albums from their catalog. I'll probably be getting lunch or dinner during then. Next, which, yeah, I'm down. From Norway, Conception is playing. They're not a black metal band.

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from the early 90s. They're a prog metal band, so I'm really psyched about seeing them. Roy Kahn, their great singer, who will be going nuts. And then the final band, I can never say their name. They're from Switzerland. Georgina, how to say it better than me. Iluvete. Oh, God. I used to be able to say it. Iluvete, I think. Iluvete. And I believe there's a band that spun off from them, which was the original singer.

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because she plays a hurdy-gurdy. I can't think of the name of the band, but I saw them. They were outstanding. They were so good. I wish I could remember their name. There's too many bands to remember. Anyway. It's not Cellar Darling, is it? Yes, it is. Thank you for reminding me of them. Yeah. Thank you. They were good because they opened for... Who did they open for? I saw them play at... In D.C.

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And they had to shorten their set

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because the, I don't know,

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either they got there late or some problem happened

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and they, so they had to shorten their set,

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which was unfortunate because they were really good.

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They're really good.

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She's super talented.

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I think they opened for the ocean.

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Probably.

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Now I saw them at Prague Power.

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Okay.

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So, all right.

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So moving along real quick to day three,

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the original day three, not day one, day three.

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And this is now,

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now this is Glenn's part of the fest.

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I literally I have one band that I'm taking a break on which I was like you gotta be kidding me opening with DGM from Italy prog metal band they're cool to see yeah followed by Brainstorm from Germany which I'm not a big Brainstorm fan but I've seen them at Prog Power and they're awesome live this was the first big surprise from the US Crimson Glory has come into play which I was psyched about that

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And you speculated on that? Yeah, I thought that would be one of them. I speculated on a few. I got two right. One, I got right, but it's not happening. But I tried. Hammer Falls, the next band, which they'll now, because they didn't play this year, they're going to come back and play in the fourth spot. The fifth band, Nevermore, is playing, which is going to be interesting because it's two of the guys from the band, not Warhol Dane, so it'd be strange not seeing him.

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singing.

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for Glenn as a promoter. First band is from Greece called Sunburst. They're a decent prog metal band. Next band from the US, Seven Spires. I don't know them, but that woman looked really scary on stage, the way she said it. Yeah, that was like, I don't know if she was the, like the, the only other woman that kind of frightened me like that was the original, I don't know if she was the original, but one of the singers from Arch Enemy. Oh, Angela. She was like a badass, like I just,

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I remember thinking like she could kick my ass. Yeah, she could. Just kidding. I wouldn't. Yeah, she could. Yeah, totally. So just yell at you. Yeah, I'd be like, ah, yeah, I try to run. I'll scream my back and I'll fall down. All right. Four more bands. Third band is going to be a solo show from Roy Kahn, who is the lead singer from Conception. So he's got double duty at this fest.

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Redemption is making a return.

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Their fan favorite,

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their kind of innovative dream theater,

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a lot of big names in the band.

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Tom from Evergray is the lead singer now,

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so it makes sense.

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Then I melt it like butter on this next one.

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Band 5, The Gathering,

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featuring Annika Van Geersbergen,

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which drives me nuts they do that because they're all members of the band but she'll be singing with them because they're doing the 30th anniversary which will be the 31st anniversary of the album mandillion which is mandillion if you heard me on the other podcast you know that's my second favorite album of all time and then closing out the fest is from australia the band voyager which everybody thought it'd be sabotage but it's not sabotage

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because we thought for sure Glenn would finally bring them to the fest because they're out touring

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again but it's Voyager and this is cool because Daniel is it Estrin is his last name I believe the

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keyboard is the synth meister and vocalist has been battling terminal cancer at least I believe it's terminal cancer and there was no guarantee they would be playing again and their his treatments went well he's still here he says

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So they're going to play shows. He's completely all white hair now. So, uh, and if you've ever seen Voyager live, they are, they're wild. So it's kind of a crazy way to finish the fest again, probably never heard all these bands. If you're listening and half of them probably won't show up. Well, we don't know, you know, I don't, we don't say that. Yeah. Oh, we don't say that. Okay. Not for this one. They have to.

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I have to. I think I'm locked in on like 11 or 12 of the, what, 20 some, 21 bands. And a majority of both the last two days I'm going to see. So. Cool. It's going to be good. Yeah. We bought our tickets. Well, you did. I, I did. Yeah. I sent my money in already for mine separately because I do a gold badge and Tiara already was able to, Glenn did something cool. He allowed you to buy your tickets.

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for day three and four at the venue a year in advance and not have to pay ticket bastard fees. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I've got, I've got a couple of shows coming up next week. Oh, what do you got coming? Do tell. Barb and I are going to see garbage at Anthem. Nice. That should be cool. Yeah. It should be interesting. Um, and then Saturday I'm going to Hershey, Pennsylvania where I will to get chocolate and slay.

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What? We're not playing anymore. Yeah. It's going to be Knocked Loose, who I don't care for. Suicidal Tending to Seize, who I do. Power Trip. Whatever. Cavalera. Is it Cavalera Conspiracy? They're doing Chaos AD. Wow. And Exodus, who I skipped at Decibel doing Bonded by Blood. I have a second chance at that now. And then, of course, Slayer. And I'll be there with...

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with Justin.

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And I believe Will is going to be there.

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And I believe Nick is going to be there.

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So we'll see.

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Wow.

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It's like a big fest.

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Yeah.

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So.

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Very cool.

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Cool.

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I've got,

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I also have some pretty cool shows lined up.

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You may recall,

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I mentioned earlier in the year,

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I went to see Dream Theater in Atlanta.

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And when I went,

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they had to cancel the show.

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Yeah.

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And so they're doing their makeup show

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as part of their new tour.

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So they're playing back-to-back nights in Atlanta.

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So I got tickets to both nights.

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The first night on the 13th of September

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will be their Parasomnia tour,

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where they're playing also in addition to Parasomnia

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in its entirety, they're doing a change of seasons,

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which is a classic from the mid-'90s.

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And then the following night,

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they're doing their 40th anniversary set list that,

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that we missed when they had to cancel.

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So glad to,

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you know,

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be able to get that show back after missing that when they had to cancel.

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And then next Tuesday,

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the 16th,

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I'm going to see Michael Schenker,

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my years with UFO down at the Rams head on stage in Annapolis.

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This isn't a concert.

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Well, it is a concert, but it's a film of a concert. I'm going to see the David Gilmore Live in Rome IMAX film in theaters. So I thought that would be kind of cool to see that with a nice, good sound system on a giant screen. So I'm going to check that out with some friends. And then on the 20th, I'm seeing Russian Circles up in Philadelphia. They're kind of a post-metal band.

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Three Guys with a Wall of Sound that just rocks. And then later in the month, on the 26th, my buddy Matt and Alex and I are going up to see Alice Cooper and Judas Priest up at the PNC Bank Arts Center in New Jersey. So I'm looking forward to that. Cool. I like that new album. Oh, from Alice Cooper? Yeah, that's good. I got one show coming up for the next month, and that's it. And that's Stephen Wilson from

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is going to be playing DC. And I have not seen him solo in a very long time. I've seen Porcupine Tree more than most. I haven't seen him the most, but I've seen him more than most. And I'm going to finally get to see his solo band. I've always seen him with just one or two people. Never actually been into his solo career as much, but his new album is very good. I like it a lot.

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I forgot to mention I'm seeing that show too but because of the traveling I'm doing I wasn't going to be able to see him nearby so I'm actually going to Port Chester New York to see that show which is just over the border and like close to Connecticut cool that's it all right well are we wrapping it up yeah we spent more time talking about the shows and stuff I know yeah our picks yeah bonus for making up for

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us not being around. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's time to schedule another episode when people start getting a hold of you going, hey, when's the next episode? I'm like, oh yeah, I guess we ought to do that. Well, the last time was because life got in the way of stuff. Yeah. This time it's just because we got in the way of ourselves. Rock and roll got in the way. August gets difficult, so. Puppets were involved. In September, too, because of broad power, so. Puppets, beer, cheese.

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And drummers from Macedon. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see you next time. Hopefully it won't be quite so long. Yeah. Yeah. Rock on. Until then. See ya. Peace.